Navy Now Taking High School Dropouts

[JWL]

Is this not bad news for the navy?

No diploma? No problem! Navy again lowers requirements as it struggles to meet recruitment goals

The U.S. Navy is starting to enlist individuals who didn’t graduate from high school or get a GED, marking the second time in about a year that the service has opened the door to lower-performing recruits as it struggles to meet enlistment goals.

apnews.com

Why did the Marines meet its quota, but the navy did not?

I assume this does not mean that officer standards will be any lower, correct?

 

[ChuckMK23]

Is this not bad news for the navy?

No diploma? No problem! Navy again lowers requirements as it struggles to meet recruitment goals

The U.S. Navy is starting to enlist individuals who didn’t graduate from high school or get a GED, marking the second time in about a year that the service has opened the door to lower-performing recruits as it struggles to meet enlistment goals.

apnews.com

Why did the Marines meet its quota, but the navy did not?

I assume this does not mean that officer standards will be any lower, correct?

Marines frankly are selling a better product to their target audience. This has been the case for decades. Marines were forced to accept draftees in the late 60's to early 70's. The response to this was "never again".

Officer accession standards will remain unaffected.

 

[Brett327]

Is this not bad news for the navy?

No diploma? No problem! Navy again lowers requirements as it struggles to meet recruitment goals

The U.S. Navy is starting to enlist individuals who didn’t graduate from high school or get a GED, marking the second time in about a year that the service has opened the door to lower-performing recruits as it struggles to meet enlistment goals.

apnews.com

Why did the Marines meet its quota, but the navy did not?

I assume this does not mean that officer standards will be any lower, correct?

Uhhh, no.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Having recruited enlisted when they did this before I believe this will have little affect on making goal. I only had a handful of applicants that didn't have a GED or HS Diploma that were able to get 50 or higher and only 1 was able to actually come in.

The USMC has more of an elite feel which helps them get recruits.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Is this not bad news for the navy?

No diploma? No problem! Navy again lowers requirements as it struggles to meet recruitment goals

The U.S. Navy is starting to enlist individuals who didn’t graduate from high school or get a GED, marking the second time in about a year that the service has opened the door to lower-performing recruits as it struggles to meet enlistment goals.

apnews.com

Why did the Marines meet its quota, but the navy did not?

I assume this does not mean that officer standards will be any lower, correct?

Holy crap man, do you not know how to Google? Are you wallythenycat version 2.0?

 

[Hotdogs]

Is this not bad news for the navy?

No diploma? No problem! Navy again lowers requirements as it struggles to meet recruitment goals

The U.S. Navy is starting to enlist individuals who didn’t graduate from high school or get a GED, marking the second time in about a year that the service has opened the door to lower-performing recruits as it struggles to meet enlistment goals.

apnews.com

Why did the Marines meet its quota, but the navy did not?

I assume this does not mean that officer standards will be any lower, correct?

A) We’re smaller.

B) The Corps focused hard on retention by throwing bonuses (finally) at almost every MOS. It reduced overall recruiting requirement.

C) Money will only go so far once young people realize $5-10k extra a year (before taxes) isn’t that much in the long run. The concept of opportunity cost isn’t common amongst young adults until much later in their careers/lives.

The USMC has more of an elite feel which helps them get recruits.

I prefer the term “propaganda.”

 

[Brett327]

Having recruited enlisted when they did this before I believe this will have little affect on making goal. I only had a handful of applicants that didn't have a GED or HS Diploma that were able to get 50 or higher and only 1 was able to actually come in.

The USMC has more of an elite feel which helps them get recruits.

The estimate I read was about 500 for this CY.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

The estimate I read was about 500 for this CY.

That isn't that many when you consider a goal of 40K.

 

[Brett327]

That isn't that many when you consider a goal of 40K.

So we should leave them off the table? There are multiple lines of effort. Every bit counts.

 

[JTS11]

Just curious, out of that 40k goal, approximately how many would be filled by non-citizen green card holders?

 

[exNavyOffRec]

So we should leave them off the table? There are multiple lines of effort. Every bit counts.

I think you may have taken my comment the wrong way, when I say "that isn't many" to me that means they are going to pick and choose.

The best example I have is the kid I put in who fell into this program many years ago, he ended up not finishing HS as he transferred with his AD parent, missed school and then there was another circumstance. He ended up doing well on the ASVAB he was very physically fit and we were able to get him in.

 

[BigRed389]

Yeah if someone still makes ASVAB but doesn’t have a diploma or GED, I read that as having the potential and aptitude, just not a stable home environment that supports finishing those programs.
Don’t know how common that combination is really, but that’s pretty spot on for a win win for the military and enlistee. The Navy has many flaws. Lack of structure isn’t one of them.

 

[JWL]

Marines frankly are selling a better product to their target audience. This has been the case for decades. Marines were forced to accept draftees in the late 60's to early 70's. The response to this was "never again".

Officer accession standards will remain unaffected.

You bring up an interesting point, Chuck. During the wars of the 20th century, I thought only the army drafted and if you had to enlist to get into the other services. Are you saying that during Vietnam, the Marines drafted civilians?

 

[JWL]

Holy crap man, do you not know how to Google? Are you wallythenycat version 2.0?

Huh??

 

[Brett327]

During the wars of the 20th century, I thought only the army drafted

The Navy and USAF didn't accept draftees during the Vietnam era, but about 45,000 men were drafted into the Marines. All services received draftees during WWII.