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My Latest Purchase (or just pictures of your current guns)
- Thread starter gaijin6423
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I was CZ cool before some of you were born, I rode a 2 stroke CZ Motocross bike in the 70s. Logo was same as it is now.
I never knew CZ made bikes until today. They sure make a hell of a pistol though- my Shadow 2 Carry is awesome.
This was certainly not a "need," but more of a curiosity. My other Glocks are all Gen 4s and work fine, assuming the recoil spring has less than 5K on it. What the Gen 6 adds is an OEM mounting system (no more MOS), which means no milling (something my other ones required). The grip angle doesn't bother me since I'm shooting Glocks 99% of the time, but it's certainly different when/if you're switching manufacturers. It also has a built in beaver tail, which is something I personally don't find I've ever needed, but a Glock bite is certainly something I've seen other people have issues with.
Recoil has apparently been tuned quite a bit, at least for those that have the skill to perceive such a thing. I don't know if I'll be one of those people, but I was curious. You can also mix and match any of the current three Gen 6 slides with any of the receivers. Not something I need now, but an interesting change, as you can actually make a fourth "model" if you buy the 19 and a 17.
Lastly there is the grip texture (which seems nice) and the thumb index...which is stupid. Why they put it there, I don't know, but it's dumb. If they had just made the serrated texture in the take-down crotch and behind it, it would have been a better choice.
Thanks for that. As you can tell, I’m not a Glock guy, but I totally understand where you’re coming from.
I’m not sure I agree. What are you basing this on? There are still plenty of full-size pistols available, and sight radius isn’t the only advantage of a longer barrel.
Indeed!
In USPSA at least - ~4 inch ish barrels seem to dominate the Production-Optics divisions. The iron sight divisions, namely Limited and Single Stack indeed are almost exclusively 5" barrels - but fewer people are competing in those divisions. There was a time where you needed that extra inch in barrel length to get the velocity needed for the respective power factor. Also among 4 inch "duty" guns, Optics are increasingly the norm.
When I shoot my 1911 in .45, I get "nice gun old timer!" he he (.45 ACP is easy peasy to reload and I have a good bit stored up).
That said, S&W just announced an all metal frame M&P with a 5" barrel so maybe the demise of longer barrels is reported prematurely. I love the aesthetics of 5" barrels/slides.
I don't shoot USPSA and I don't have the complete science behind the "why," but I believe some of it comes down to tuning and speed. From what I've read/watched, the G17 Gen 6 (as an example) has a smoother recoil than the G19 (or G45) Gen 6, but it comes at the cost of faster follow-up shots. Kind of makes sense given the slide has to travel longer and it's the same recoil spring (elasticity). I've also casually read that some people prefer the their G45 (or is it G47...I can never keep it straight) Gen 5 because, again, they have the smaller slide but larger grip.
I don't think my pistol shooting is anywhere near the level that it would matter to me, but I can understand how it would apply to others. If you apply that general concept to other brands, as well, you may have the answer as to why. Add to the increased speed a RDS gives you, and now you're really pushing the platform to its next tier (assuming you have the skill).
It's funny you bring this up because last week, after not being able to shoot for a while, I specifically went to the range to work on how fast could I accurately engage a target with follow up shots. It's something I know I'm slower on at the local 2-Gun than others that I can otherwise keep up with, which pushes me down a few spots in the scoring. I also played with movement and shooting, which is always educational.
It was a productive range trip, and also facilitated working on my pistol grip, which (as everyone knows) really does help with control, accuracy, and and ultimately speed. Plus it showed just how stupid flat my normal "go-to" 2-Gun rifle shoots when unsuppressed. I'm so glad I built that thing years ago.
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It was a productive range trip, and also facilitated working on my pistol grip, which (as everyone knows) really does help with control, accuracy, and and ultimately speed. Plus it showed just how stupid flat my normal "go-to" 2-Gun rifle shoots when unsuppressed. I'm so glad I built that thing years ago.
A picture for your time and attention.
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My theory is that shooting and golf are very similar that it's easy to convince yourself that buying the Whackmaster 275 is going to fix your slice and going to a longer barrel / shorter barrel / striker fired / ......is going to transform you into a Grandmaster in weeks.
No truer words!
I will say that pistol optics for me are a game changer - like so many older shooters. That said I am skeptical on the use of pistol optics for duty use.
I’ve come around to pistol optics after some early issues adapting my sight picture. For carry, a closed-emitter optic is best though- they’re easier to keep clean and less prone to damage/failure.
I still train to both- irons have their place.
Given the wide-spread, national adoption by all levels of LE and the military, I'm not sure that skepticism is warranted. And think about duty carbines, which are used all the time now in LE. In 2026, are you skeptical of an Aimpoint on a M4? Seeing SageDynamics brutally abuse both open and closed emitter optics and show they are still completely functional and accurate really put all of that out of my mind.
The one caveat (as you know) is not all RDS are the same. Put a SRO on a duty pistol? Eh, probably not. Put a RMR (or now RMR HD) on there? Absolutely.