It can be; if you do it right.
But in this case, it represents merely a figure of speech from an impure mouth.
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Airlines to Military?
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But in this case, it represents merely a figure of speech from an impure mouth.
m0tbaillie
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I worked there twice. Once before going to Hawaiian and once while on furlough. The last stint ended about 3 years ago and I left with rather a dark cloud over my head. I started a pilot union drive to get us better pay & work rules (no union but we got big improvements out of it) which made management pretty unhappy with me. It took them a year, but they finally were able to dump me after I refused a VFR flight in very marginal if not IFR weather (official reason) and called the Dispatch Manager a "fat cow" in the process (never substantiated by HR).
Flytpay - 737driver never claimed to be a Captain or that Captains flew with 200 hours. He just said there are young Captains. Unfortunately for the passengers, he is correct that there are many low time pilots occupying FO seats in foreign airlines. Many of these pilots eventually end up in the left seats with less experience then I think is safe. But they all have an ATP with the minimum 1500 hours before moving left.
There is a reason Mesa Airlines is known as "kids with jets".
I thought that was Kingsville
Whatever
Where did you train these pilots and how or why are they so inferior?
What qualifies you to make such a remark? (cos thats a pretty big generalisation)
Airlines pilots earn their money in the sim and on the day something goes desperately wrong, when or if that day ever comes. The rest is plain sailing. So you don't need 000s of hours flying smaller incomparable aircraft to be qualified.
Where did you train these pilots and how or why are they so inferior?
What qualifies you to make such a remark? (cos thats a pretty big generalisation)
Airlines pilots earn their money in the sim and on the day something goes desperately wrong, when or if that day ever comes. The rest is plain sailing. So you don't need 000s of hours flying smaller incomparable aircraft to be qualified.
What have you against Civy pilots?
Do CRJs fall out of the sky often? or do you like buses?
I agree the average 200 hrs military pilot would be of a higher standard than his civy counterpart and so he should be , he has had more extensive, expensive training on more sophisicated aircraft.
I went to a budget flightschool and got very little groundschool. At times I felt like I was teaching myself but at the end of the day I met the standard or wouldn't pass.
I understand that different airplanes land differently but no one gets into any new jet without some training and in Europe all pilots F/Os or Captains have a full type rating. I meant that any CRJ pilot would be perfectly capable of flying a 737 after some initial TRAINING.
Do CRJs fall out of the sky often? or do you like buses?
I agree the average 200 hrs military pilot would be of a higher standard than his civy counterpart and so he should be , he has had more extensive, expensive training on more sophisicated aircraft.
I went to a budget flightschool and got very little groundschool. At times I felt like I was teaching myself but at the end of the day I met the standard or wouldn't pass.
I understand that different airplanes land differently but no one gets into any new jet without some training and in Europe all pilots F/Os or Captains have a full type rating. I meant that any CRJ pilot would be perfectly capable of flying a 737 after some initial TRAINING.
Gee ... I don't remember. Sorry I can't fill in the blanks for you.
I do know one former Irish 737 co-driver who is now out of work, divorced, and living in his car. Very stylish ... very sporting.
Flying out of Meridian on a CRJ was always an interesting experience. We would leave the (civilian) airport with a bunch of us Naval Avaitor wanna-bees in the back of the jet. We would watch as the two pilots climbed into the cockpit, both about our age or younger.
If we went NORDO in the goo off a vector with the Wx at our primary and divert field going to shit and thunderstorms building all around I would rather have myself or one the guys sitting near me making the decisions vs. one of those two. Maybe I am way off base, but that is my gut feeling.
So no, CRJs aren't falling out of the sky, but if there was a chance one was about to from a scenario that isn't trained specifically for, I would take the lower hour military guy who spends every day being berated in the sim and plane with outlandish scenarios and being taught to actually think.
That said, I still fly on said CRJs. And I don't sweat blood the entire time. But I still have these thoughts everytime I fly on one...
If we went NORDO in the goo off a vector with the Wx at our primary and divert field going to shit and thunderstorms building all around I would rather have myself or one the guys sitting near me making the decisions vs. one of those two. Maybe I am way off base, but that is my gut feeling.
So no, CRJs aren't falling out of the sky, but if there was a chance one was about to from a scenario that isn't trained specifically for, I would take the lower hour military guy who spends every day being berated in the sim and plane with outlandish scenarios and being taught to actually think.
That said, I still fly on said CRJs. And I don't sweat blood the entire time. But I still have these thoughts everytime I fly on one...
