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1950s Carrier Trials Montage....
- Thread starter Mumbles
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How'd Angry hold up with FRS CQ last week? Still walking around with a knife in his teeth? 
Excellent video! It was hard for me to tell, were all of those done aboard the USS Ticonderoga?
Gus Gorilla
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Wow. The arresting gear seemed to stop them right now with not much payout. Rough stop or low speeds?
Arressting Gear
I think the arresting gear engines of the early '50s were rougher with a shorter runout. I deployed on TICO in '61 & runout was definitely rougher & shorter than the "SuperCarriers".
Also noticed they were landing/rolling out on the axial deck. Must have been just prior to TICO's 27-C conversion which added angle deck/hurricane bow, which she had in '61.
BzB
I think the arresting gear engines of the early '50s were rougher with a shorter runout. I deployed on TICO in '61 & runout was definitely rougher & shorter than the "SuperCarriers".
Also noticed they were landing/rolling out on the axial deck. Must have been just prior to TICO's 27-C conversion which added angle deck/hurricane bow, which she had in '61.
BzB
"Fired with a lower catapult and airspeed"...sheesh, knowingly taking a soft catshot!?!?
In underpowered death traps to boot.
I guess that's the name of the game- performance charts, wind envelopes, etc. come from somewhere; they don't appear by magic (well ok, they do, but...).
USS TICONDEROGA CV-14 ... my first night CQ ... she liked to heave & roll and the landing area was 'small & short' ... remember that STOOF CAT-shot posted herein a while back where the STOOF disappeared in the white water off the 'pointy-end' ... ??? That was off the TICO ... and she was a 'dancer'.
Anytime you flew on/off a 27C type CV ... it made you a 'BELIEVER': that's as a 'believer' in the LSO ... a 'believer' in your training ... a 'believer' in your skills ... and occasionally a 'believer' in life after death ??? BELIEVE IT !!!
And it made you appreciate the big decks. Funny -- for decades we took initial CQ STUDs, including Jet-STUDs, to a 27C deck for their first BOAT work ...
The LSO sez to me when I called the ball for the first night trap (true story): ''THE DECK'S PITCHIN' AND HEAVIN' ... SO DON'T CHASE THE BALL ... AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT LINEUP AS SHE'S ROLLIN' BADLY ... JUST LISTEN TO ME ... !!!''
The TICO post SCB-125 rework, in calmer seas in Elliot Bay during the opening of the Seattle Worlds Fair, 1962.
Anytime you flew on/off a 27C type CV ... it made you a 'BELIEVER': that's as a 'believer' in the LSO ... a 'believer' in your training ... a 'believer' in your skills ... and occasionally a 'believer' in life after death ??? BELIEVE IT !!!
And it made you appreciate the big decks. Funny -- for decades we took initial CQ STUDs, including Jet-STUDs, to a 27C deck for their first BOAT work ...
The LSO sez to me when I called the ball for the first night trap (true story): ''THE DECK'S PITCHIN' AND HEAVIN' ... SO DON'T CHASE THE BALL ... AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT LINEUP AS SHE'S ROLLIN' BADLY ... JUST LISTEN TO ME ... !!!''
The TICO post SCB-125 rework, in calmer seas in Elliot Bay during the opening of the Seattle Worlds Fair, 1962.
Yeah ... and just so all the 'rest of you' might know the basic difference between a 'straight 27C' and a SBC-125 modernization ... check out the below cropped pix of the USS INTREPID CV-11 (the Fighting I ... the Dry I ... the Evil I ... current museum ... it just depends upon your perspective):
The SBC-125 conversion on top, obviously ...
The SBC-125 conversion on top, obviously ...
Thanks for the education; I can definitely see the difference in the angle deck. This is what I love about this site; I learn something new every day! :thumbup_1Yeah ... and just so all the 'rest of you' might know the basic difference between a 'straight 27C' and a SBC-125 modernization ... check out the below cropped pix of the USS INTREPID CV-11 (the Fighting I ... the Dry I ... the Evil I ... current museum ... it just depends upon your perspective):
The SBC-125 conversion on top, obviously ...
TICO LSO'S & STOOFS 'at the moment of truth' ... old school style.
Please note how close the LSO's are to the bird and the foul line ... when you're that close, you can 'feel' the engines right through your chest and see the pilot's mustache as he flashes by ..... this is 'da BEST, Bruddahs -- this is 'hands-on' carrier aviation ...
Wish I could do it again, tomorrow ... oh, well ... mebbe time for a nap, instead ... ???:sleep_125
Please note how close the LSO's are to the bird and the foul line ... when you're that close, you can 'feel' the engines right through your chest and see the pilot's mustache as he flashes by ..... this is 'da BEST, Bruddahs -- this is 'hands-on' carrier aviation ...
Wish I could do it again, tomorrow ... oh, well ... mebbe time for a nap, instead ... ???
:sleep_125
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With the post-retrofit, what was the purpose of extending the catapult rails (the little prong thingies sticking out of the bow)? Was it to help with separation of the nose gear from the catapult or just for looks?
As I understand it, it was to catch the catapult bridle at the end of the cat stroke.