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another wannabe naval officer

RussBow6

RussBow6

Member
whats up fellas... just joined today after poking around on here for awhile... lotta respect and gratitude for what you all do and i hope to join your ranks if i'm lucky enough in the future.

here's my scoop... i just started the process seeking an OCS commission.
i know its a long road, i applied to the Academy outta hs so i like to think i have an idea of whats in store for me (endless paperwork and checkups ha)

i applied to the Academy coming outta hs but didn't make the final selection. i ended up playing baseball @ Villanova University and managed to graduate with a mechanical engineering degree. I'm 22 and started working in september and its now january and needless to say I don't see myself doing this for the rest of my life.

I've got a couple friends running through bud/s right now out in coronado and they convinced me to go ahead and seek an OCS commission. and i couldn't think of a good way to tell a couple tadpoles no.. so here I am...
i've got all my basic paperwork in... up to the dd 370s.

my application info will change so i haven't signed that yet... mainly i'm a jacked up 195 lbs right now from D1 baseball and college jock life. i'm looking to get down to around a fast and total muscle 180 before i take the prt and go up to albany for my physical. i plan on getting the outstanding high level except for the 8:30 1.5 mi run time. thats just insane and i'm not from nigeria or high altitude in CO so i'm gonna concede that goal. if i can break 10 min i'll be a happy camper.

lotta backround for a simple question really... ive been reading around on here and it looks like my best bet is to take the astb and find out where i stand with that first before i really get serious with the paperwork/bugging my poor recruiter and recommendation hunting? thoughts?

my recruiter sent me the gouge in pdf but looks like i should check out this as well
http://www.amazon.com/Military-Flig...d_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215165859&sr=8-1

anything else i should check out? if i dominate that book should i be all set for the astb? maybe some quick reference flying and sailing books that you guys know of and trust?

thanks for your time and help
 
RussBow6

RussBow6

Member
thanks boys ill check it all out... right now im making my way through the gouge and living on math.com. i cant remember the last time i didn't use a calculator on a test. when im set with that i'll buy a book and work through that... one step at a time. especially angles with sin and cos that'll be fun...

that cutoff you mentioned nugget... thats not a hard and fast level right? it differs depending on how strong the group of kids taking the test do on the test for a given period... does that make sense? thats how i understand it but how does it really work?

i know i just wanna rock it and not have to worry about it. my gpa in college wasnt the strongest so i wanna make sure i dont give them an excuse to dismiss me.

andddd maybe this ? should be in a different thread but... as far as medical goes what should i report?...
i know i should be truthful and officer worthy but with all the applicants flooding the system right now i wouldnt want to report a sprained ankle that recovered fully or a broken finger that i taped up and played with when it was broken... and have them use that to dismiss me.
i guess worst case i dont report it on the premed screen form, they find it in my medical history and then i just prove to them during my physical that its nothing to worry about and i'm not a damaged asset? what should i do?
 
OUSOONER

OUSOONER

Crusty Shellback
pilot
RussBow6 said:
i know i should be truthful and officer worthy but with all the applicants flooding the system right now i wouldnt want to report a sprained ankle that recovered fully or a broken finger that i taped up and played with when it was broken... and have them use that to dismiss me.
i guess worst case i dont report it on the premed screen form, they find it in my medical history and then i just prove to them during my physical that its nothing to worry about and i'm not a damaged asset? what should i do?
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Keep it common sense. I'm an athlete too and let's be honest, if we reported every sprained ankle, bump, and bruise...we'd have a pretty long medical record.

Anything that particularly stands out? Surgeries, broken bones, asthma, stuff that you had to take meds for..like depression. There are a whole list of things, but just run it by your recruiter. I'm sure you can distinguish what is big or not.

Don't lie, but you are not going to get dumped for broken bones in your past or niggling injuries from playing sports, provided you are healed and have full range of motion.
 
RussBow6

RussBow6

Member
OUSOONER said:
Keep it common sense. I'm an athlete too and let's be honest, if we reported every sprained ankle, bump, and bruise...we'd have a pretty long medical record.

Anything that particularly stands out? Surgeries, broken bones, asthma, stuff that you had to take meds for..like depression. There are a whole list of things, but just run it by your recruiter. I'm sure you can distinguish what is big or not.

Don't lie, but you are not going to get dumped for broken bones in your past or niggling injuries from playing sports, provided you are healed and have full range of motion.
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beautiful, thats what i wanted to hear. thanks boss.
 
nugget61

nugget61

Active Member
pilot
that cutoff you mentioned nugget... thats not a hard and fast level right? it differs depending on how strong the group of kids taking the test do on the test for a given period... does that make sense? thats how i understand it but how does it really work?
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You've gotten some good info but I think you're mixing it up some. When you take the ASTB you get 4 numbers as a grade. Yes, the test is standardized so your grades come from how well you did in relation to everyone else, but there is a minimum cutoff for SNA (I don't recall the exact numbers, but it's something like 5/5/5).
andddd maybe this ? should be in a different thread but... as far as medical goes what should i report?...
i know i should be truthful and officer worthy but with all the applicants flooding the system right now i wouldnt want to report a sprained ankle that recovered fully or a broken finger that i taped up and played with when it was broken... and have them use that to dismiss me.
i guess worst case i dont report it on the premed screen form, they find it in my medical history and then i just prove to them during my physical that its nothing to worry about and i'm not a damaged asset? what should i do?
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My OR told me to report everything that was big, so just use your judgment. At MEPS they will want to know anytime you went to a hospital, why, where and outcome.
 
Spekkio

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
Yes, the first step is to take the ASTB. Unfortunately, there isn't a one-stop source or book for good gouge on it; you'll have to complile information and questions from multiple sources to study for the test.

FYI, the PRT is pass/fail for the Navy. You should continue your goal of trying to be as fit as possible, but scoring outstanding high isn't going to boost your chances anymore than scoring a good low, so don't hold off your application for the sake of maxing it out.
 
FlyBoyd

FlyBoyd

Out to Pasture
pilot
OUSOONER said:
Don't lie, but you are not going to get dumped for broken bones in your past or niggling injuries from playing sports, provided you are healed and have full range of motion.
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Avoid making any statement that an old injury still bothers you every now and then. It is not a lie to assume your body will show (and feel) like you have been riding it hard. Adding to above I would say full ROM and free of pain that would/could keep you from doing anything. Some pain from old injuries is normal and just the price you are paying for the life you have lived.

Just my 2 cents after a lifetime of knee and back/neck issues.
 
Double_A

Double_A

New Member
I just took the astb two weeks ago and was able to pull off an 8/8/8 62 with no aviation/nautical background by studying the following:

The marine gouge provides a very good example of the types of questions to expect for the math and mechanical sections. If you are able to get through those parts easy enough, then the actual test should be no problem. There is no need to really worry about not having a calculator. The only computations I remember was some very basic multiplication and division. I just rounded the numbers to make the process a little quicker and was able to get the correct answers.

I used the ARCO book solely for the spatial part of the test. It allowed me to time myself and achieve the pace I needed to finish on time. The math and mechanical practice sections in this book are quite a bit more difficult than the actual test so I avoided them.

My main source of study came from a study guide created by atrickpay which I found to be dead on with alot of the information needed for the test. The link to that study guide is here http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145049&page=2&highlight=ASTB+personal+study+guide and can be found about half way down the page.

I also gave this source a quick look through to learn a little flight physics http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/intro.htm

Good Luck with your application. It takes a little work and quite some time, but it will all pay off in the end.
 
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