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Trev82

Registered User
pilot
I took my ASTB my senior year 05' had 7/7/7 and had a solid PFT wasn't selected and now in 07 am considering to resubmit my app and reapply, does anyone know if my ASTB is still applicable or do i need to retake it.
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
I would studay and retake for a higher score. It can't hurt and is one of the least time consuming parts of the application.
 

Kickflip89

Below Ladder
None
Contributor
I would studay and retake for a higher score. It can't hurt and is one of the least time consuming parts of the application.

Agreed. Those scores aren't too bad, but if your OAR was below 55 I'd definately retake it. Just make sure you study math, and by study math I mean do timed practice tests. Same with mechanics, spatial, and the aviation section.

Remember that if you do worse, they'll still use your worse scores (at least I was told this), so don't take it unless you're ready.
 

millerjd

Stayin' alive
Agreed. Those scores aren't too bad, but if your OAR was below 55 I'd definately retake it. Just make sure you study math, and by study math I mean do timed practice tests. Same with mechanics, spatial, and the aviation section.

Remember that if you do worse, they'll still use your worse scores (at least I was told this), so don't take it unless you're ready.


Definitely true. Do timed test on the math, again and again, and know how to do square roots of large numbers, that got me by surprise. I got through 10 problems and then looked at the timer and swear I blacked out cause I had no time left so I did the best I could in the remaining couple minutes.

They will use your last score, no matter what, the application processor told me to submit what I had instead of risking getting stuck with a lower score.

If I don't make it in this time, I will definitely try again. He also mentioned that one of the forms had 'much easier' math, but this is just hearsay since I have only taken Form 3.
 

MasterHaynes86

Registered User
i saw my scores today... not exactly something to be proud of, but they are delightlfully evil

6/6/6 OAR 59 and I was able to get contracted...

good luck
 

Trev82

Registered User
pilot
Congrats!!

on getting your scores and more importantly getting contracted!! I have no idea what my OAR is but i don't want to risk getting lower then my 7/7/7 score so i think i'm going to leave it at that and just work on getting my ass back in running shape. My senior year i was rowing in college and ran an 18:36 but i'd be lucky to get under 21 now as i've had 2 years off. I'm just so STOKED on the prospect of reapplying and getting contracted that i can't rip my suit tie off soon enough!!
 

Trev82

Registered User
pilot
Speaking of running, anybody have any suggestions for somebody like me that is trying to prepare for the running portion of the PFT. I've been lifting pretty heavy for the last year and not been running AT ALL, are there any training suggestions anyone might have to get me back in the groove?
 

badger16

Well-Known Member
None
I'd take a break from lifting...heavy anyway...and sprinkle in some short runs at first and then build on it. If you haven't run for 2 years then when I say short run...I mean like half mile jog to warm up (AFTER STREACHING!!!) then a half mile of a pace you would like to work up to...then streach after you are done. Do that 3 or 4 times the first week then build up the milage as you feel you are ready to handle. That is if you have plenty of time before OCS. just my 2cents.
 

Trev82

Registered User
pilot
thx

Badger thx a lot bud, i've been at 170 for so long i've been hitting the weights REALLy hard, i'm now up to 180 but i really need to concentrate on my running. I think i'm going to try for the OCT OCC so do have plenty of time to get my legs back in shape...i have been doing squats, presses, etc so i haven't completely abandoned them. Badger what did you get on your 3mi?
 

spitfiremkxiv

Pepe's sandwich
Contributor
Trev...I agree, cut back on the lifting (and supplements) and focus on short runs for awhile. Some lifting is still okay and you can make up for some of the lost muscle tone with good calisthenic workouts before and after running. As far as appearances are concerned, the girls will will dig your newly refined abs, so don't worry about losing a little on the chest. Plan to lose a few pounds, but you would have lost that extra muscle weight at OCS anyway.

And most importantly: Take care of your shins!
 

MasterHaynes86

Registered User
Since you are in lifting mode you need to transition to a running mode. This is what I did 2 years ago when i was more lifting than running

LIFT on normal intervals for a few weeks. Instead of doing heavy weights, drop you weight you are lifting to 50% of max and do 5 sets of 10 (i did squats and calf raises) Instead of explaining it, ill give my avg workout i did while i transitioned
1. stretch REALLY WELL
2. first set at 50% squats. Every time i came up i did a powerful/fast calf raise that caused me to nearly hop. Weight was about 200. My max was only 300, but i could rep 300 several times and never go higher. Really, use a weight you are comfy with and can rep many times
3. Go do an set of crunches or something. SOMETHING to do with Abs. Follow these abs by either some pullups or pushups (a rep set, wide, narrow, or normal spread)
4. STRETCH AGAIN. LEGS, ABS, and ARMS
5. Start over. If you know need more weight to challenge yourself, add 5 - 10 lbs. When you get to abs, keep it consistent whether it be burnouts each time, set # of sets, or set time. For arms, I would switch between pushups and pullups, changing grip (pullups) and arm width each time.
6. After the weight room workout I would go out and just jog a comfy pace for as long as i could. Usually about 1/2 a mile in the start and eventually getting up to 1.5-2 miles.

When I got up to the 1.5-2 miles comfy pace i figured i could intensify running and reduce the weight room area. And then i would run first and then go in and do about 3 sets of 8 or so with similar ab and pullup rotations.

hope it helps. I only did the intensive weight room for a couple weeks and then i was ready to run like a deer

STRETCH AFTER YOU RUN
 

joboy_2.0

professional undergraduate
Contributor
I find that when doing lifting, to avoid inhibiting gains or causing muscle loss due to the catabolic nature of cardiovascular exercise, is to try HIIT cardio workouts, with maybe one or two steady-state cario workouts a week. Like alternate days of lifting/HIIT cardio with a day of SS cardio. 2 rest days is good at the end of the week. Most importantly, muscles are made in the kitchen. If you don't eat right, you will SEVERELY limit your potential.
 

badger16

Well-Known Member
None
Also if you want to keep some muscle on like i've said before try climbing...Its a hell of a work out and I think would translate well to the stuff they do in OCS since alot of the PFT/PT is about being able to manipulate your own body weight.

@trev- I haven't done the running portion for OCS yet but i've been running all though college. I average about a 6 minute mile for three maybe 5:45-5:50 if I really push myself, but i've been running longer distances as of late so my speed has gone down a bit. What I told you is what I did my Freshmen year of school when I went from lifting really hard to running alot.

Like I said above this is just my 2 cents i'm not saying this is perfect bettering your PFT score, I'm just saying it worked for getting me into better running shape.
 
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