cannot submit an open application due to pending court case

[scottwith1t]

or in my case, TRAFFIC COURT!

i got popped for 74 in a 55, i was going the speed of traffic at 9mph over the speed limit when it dropped to 55mph and i drove right into a speed trap where i was the lucky contestant at that particular moment.

anyways, i'm taking it to court simply to ask the judge to wave the points on my license and maybe take the drivers class again since you cannot take it twice in one year and i took it about 10 months ago for my first and only ticket ever.

little did i know that since this is a ticket over $150 and i have a pending court date, this is an open issue which must be resolved. this we found out after we submitted and rejected on this technicality.


i also found it interesting that they had to go physically drive to the courthouse in the two different jurisdictions where i received my speeding tickets. i kind of felt bad for the recruiter because this was a whole day's activity spent just for me.

 

[Spekkio]

That sucks. Oh, don't feel TOO bad for the recruiter -- correct me if I'm wrong, but word is they get a nice check for any applicants they get accepted.

 

[shotcalla10]

do they do all your police record checks and background checks before it gets submitted to the board or after? I've heard they do it before... that would make more sense. but anyway, I'm sorry to hear that... technicality SUCKS. Once I applied to the FBI and I was selected to take Phase one and two testing and got DQed over technicality. Anyway, good luck with everything from here.

 

[MasterBates]

What ever happened to the good old days when the judge went "That door to the left goes to jail, that door on the right goes to flight school"?

 

[xmid]

Oh, don't feel TOO bad for the recruiter -- correct me if I'm wrong, but word is they get a nice check for any applicants they get accepted.

Where did this "word" come from? Thats an enlisted thing, and the reason why some enlisted recruiters will lie cheat or steel to get you to sign up.

 

[Spekkio]

From someone who obviously didn't know the difference between officer and enlisted recruiters .

 

[Boats]

They don't get checks either, they get promoted which is even worse.

 

[phrogpilot73]

They don't get checks either, they get promoted which is even worse.

That's a pretty bold and blanket statement. And no, they don't automatically get promoted. In the USMC (which as always, is probably different than the other services), if they don't "make mission" a.k.a. put in the right number of people regularly - they will be denied promotion and possibly shown the door. While some may come off as liars, cheats, whatever - it's because they've put anywhere from 8-15 years in the Navy/USMC and could possibly lose it because they aren't good recruiters. It's not necessarily worse if they do get promoted - because I haven't met a single guy that left to go on recruiting duty that wasn't a good Marine worthy of promotion.

 

[Boats]

Navy/Marines = apples/oranges in this case, (like it is most of the time)

Have seen more than a few guys who couldn't make rate in the fleet go to recruiting duty and get capped all the way to first class. Now you have an LPO who doesnt know anything, not the norm, but it happens as much as people getting "checks" for recruiting. You can also get reaped (dont know the exact term) to Chief when recruting. And not all the stellar Petty Officers go recruiting. I have taking more than a few people in to meet the recruiter and they are hanging out in PT gear (sloppy stuff at that), civilian clothes, doing whatever and act like it is a pain to answer questions if somebody wants a specific job, not the one meps is pushing that week. This isnt on a Friday afternoon, this is mid week at a major area. Not saying they are all bad, but the screening process is a joke in the Navy.

 

[jus2mch]

or in my case, TRAFFIC COURT!

i got popped for 74 in a 55, i was going the speed of traffic at 9mph over the speed limit when it dropped to 55mph and i drove right into a speed trap where i was the lucky contestant at that particular moment.

anyways, i'm taking it to court simply to ask the judge to wave the points on my license and maybe take the drivers class again since you cannot take it twice in one year and i took it about 10 months ago for my first and only ticket ever.

little did i know that since this is a ticket over $150 and i have a pending court date, this is an open issue which must be resolved. this we found out after we submitted and rejected on this technicality.


i also found it interesting that they had to go physically drive to the courthouse in the two different jurisdictions where i received my speeding tickets. i kind of felt bad for the recruiter because this was a whole day's activity spent just for me.

If you were only doing 9 over how did you get popped for 74 in a 55? Did you ask to see the gun and it showed 9 over? If it did and he wrote you up for 74 you can probably have it dropped.
http://www.radardetector.net/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=54cf4158361bed346a6265acd281e2a3

 

[WishICouldFly]

do they do all your police record checks and background checks before it gets submitted to the board or after?

They do it after. When you submit to the board, all they look at is your application, how professionally apt you are to being a Navy/Marine Officer.
My JPAS (Security questionnaire) JUST got cleared, and I was in the July boards.
I agree, kind of sucks in case something holds it up, eh.

 

[shotcalla10]

But I found this from an older thread... that they do it before... hmm...

"Before. The OCS application process just changed a bit... you do the security check as part of the initial application process, before your kit goes to the board for the professional reccomendation. Basically, its a requireent to pass the basic security clearance check to even be considered for OCS. Its the standard NSA background check that goes with a gov't security clearance.

You fill out the SF-86.. its amillion and a half pages long... goes into job history, drug use, police record, people you know, where you've lived, finacial history.. pretty much everything you can think of.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Bubba"

 

[FUPaladin]

Both may be right. I'm sure they do at a least a basic background check before you can get a pro-rec, just to make sure you aren't a convicted felon or whatever. But the more in-depth check, where they call the people on your SF-86 form and find out more about you than even you know, happens after you get a pro-rec and before final select (no way they would do all that for every single applicant when so many won't be selected). I got a pro-rec in June and met with the investigator who was doing my background check in July.

 

[scottwith1t]

If you were only doing 9 over how did you get popped for 74 in a 55? Did you ask to see the gun and it showed 9 over? If it did and he wrote you up for 74 you can probably have it dropped.
http://www.radardetector.net/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=54cf4158361bed346a6265acd281e2a3

speed limit was 65, i was going 74... 9 over, which is generally normal for the stretch of road. honestly i wasn't paying attention to my speed, just the speed of traffic.

then the speed limit cuts down to 55mph, and just around the bend was one of florida's finest with his motorcycle parked off the road and both hands on his LIDAR pointed directly at me.

poof, 74 in a 55.

i was, of course, the big shiny red camaro surrounded by dull colored SUV's and such. i'm usually the last to say that red cars get you in more trouble but in this case i can honestly say it might have had something to do with me being the lucky contestant rather than the drivers surrounding me and in at least one case the guy in the next lane passing me.


the real interesting this with the whole SF-86 thing is that i already have a clearance but yet they still required me to fill it out as part of the application process. the recruiter said they probably won't re-investigate but rather just transfer my existing clearance.