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Confused about Training for NFO's

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konsole

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I am sure this is listed somewhere in this forum, but the more I look, the more confused I am getting. I guess there are alot of different paths out there.

I am leaving to attend OCS begining June 25th. I was selected NFO.

As I understand the sequence, it is as follows:

-OCS (13 weeks)
-Air Indoctrination Course (6 weeks)
-Primary Flight Training (??? weeks)
<Pick type of aircraft>
-Intermediate Flight Training (??? weeks)
-Advanced Flight Training (??? weeks)
<Get gold wings>
-Fleet Replacement Squadron (??? weeks)

I would appreciate if anyone could fill in my knowledge holes as far as the length of training and where the training is.

I am married with a child and I am trying to figure out when and where to send them after OCS. We are all currently at my command in upstate New York. (I am prior enlisted, in the nuclear program, hence my lack of knowledge on the aviation side.)

Any help you can give is greatly appreciated!!

-ET2
 
TurnandBurn55

TurnandBurn55

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konsole said:
As I understand the sequence, it is as follows:

-OCS (13 weeks)
-Air Indoctrination Course (6 weeks)
-Primary Flight Training (??? weeks)
<Pick type of aircraft>
-Intermediate Flight Training (??? weeks)
-Advanced Flight Training (??? weeks)
<Get gold wings>
-Fleet Replacement Squadron (??? weeks)
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There's a catch in here, and that's that you're not taking into consideration he times betwen phases. Between OCS and API, you could be waiting months.

The times will vary greatly depending on pipeline selection... I'll give the default for F/A-18Fs

OCS
Aviation Preflight Indoctrination (6 weeks)
Primary Flight Training at VT-10/-4 in the T-6 (4 months)
--Aircraft Selection--Stay in PCola or leave for Randolph AFB (P-3s)
Intermediate Flight Training (4 months)
--Aircraft Selection-- Stay in PCola or leave for NAS Norfolk (E-2s)
Advanced Flight Training
-Strike Core (6 weeks)
--Aircraft Selection-- Stay in PCola regardless
-Strike/Fighter Phase (4-5 months)
-Advanced Tactical Maneuvers (6 weeks)
Wings of Gold
SERE
CFIT
FRS (8-9 months) in NAS Lemoore or NAS Oceana
 
The Chief

The Chief

Retired
Contributor
TurnandBurn55 said:
That's an alright link, but somewhat dated. 127.8 hours for Strike/Fighter? That's on the low side by about 60 hours..
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Where would that increase be? Or across board increase?

Think times indicated are actual times in airframe:

T 34 = 58.5 hours
T 39 = 51.6 hours
T -2 = 16.9 hours

127 TOTAL Flight hours.
 
TurnandBurn55

TurnandBurn55

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Oh yeah, I'm going off actual flight time... I ended with 189.9 flight hours per my logbook...

Where does it come from? Some of it is across-the-board... I have no idea how dated the link is or how many changes they made to the syllabus since then, but changes are made regularly.. there was a major change in the Primary/Intermediate Master curriculum guide about 2.5 years ago... another once recently made to Advanced

We now fly T-1s in Intermediate, not T-39s... and T-6s instead of T-34s... there have certainly been added flights to the syllabus (approach hop, 4 fighter-strike flights in advanced... 3 more VNAVs in intermediate come to mind off the top of my head...)

Just saying that while that link gives a good ballpark idea of what to expect, the training syllabus is in a constant state of flux, and I'm guessing that link is about 5 years old...
 
Sabre170

Sabre170

Active Member
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TurnandBurn55 said:
There's a catch in here, and that's that you're not taking into consideration he times betwen phases. Between OCS and API, you could be waiting months.

The times will vary greatly depending on pipeline selection... I'll give the default for F/A-18Fs

OCS
Aviation Preflight Indoctrination (6 weeks)
Primary Flight Training at VT-10/-4 in the T-6 (4 months)
--Aircraft Selection--Stay in PCola or leave for Randolph AFB (P-3s)
Intermediate Flight Training (4 months)
--Aircraft Selection-- Stay in PCola or leave for NAS Norfolk (E-2s)
Advanced Flight Training
-Strike Core (6 weeks)
--Aircraft Selection-- Stay in PCola regardless
-Strike/Fighter Phase (4-5 months)
-Advanced Tactical Maneuvers (6 weeks)
Wings of Gold
SERE
CFIT
FRS (8-9 months) in NAS Lemoore or NAS Oceana
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What does CFIT stand for?
 
Sabre170

Sabre170

Active Member
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Does anyone know what the pool time for Primary (NFO) in P'Cola is? Does Intermediate and Advanced have Pools too?
 
Brett327

Brett327

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Sabre170 said:
Does anyone know what the pool time for Primary (NFO) in P'Cola is? Does Intermediate and Advanced have Pools too?
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CFIT is a 1-2 day, one time centrifuge training which can happen anywhere along the pipeline, including after you've already been to your fleet squadron. Different pool waits vary from zero to many months - all depends on when you get there.

Brett
 
R

Red2

E-2 NFO. WTI. DH.
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Sabre170 said:
Does anyone know what the pool time for Primary (NFO) in P'Cola is? Does Intermediate and Advanced have Pools too?
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I waited four weeks between API/Primary. There is no wait between Primary and Intermediate if you stay in Pcola. Also, there is no wait for advanced if you stay and go to VT-86. I'm not sure about Randolph and Norfolk.
 
Fmr1833

Fmr1833

Shut the F#%k up, dummy!
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I'm in charge of the Primary pool right now and it's about a four to six week wait. There are over 40 SNFO's waiting around with another group coming in this week. Primary classes start every other Monday. The next one starts next Monday.
 
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