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EPSQ Question. Sorry!

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gtg941f

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I know you don't want to hear another EPSQ question but here it goes.

I was pro-rec'd SNA this past month and am now filling out the EPSQ. I moved to Texas from Canada when I was 14, and obtained citizenship in Dallas (my dad is American). The EPSQ asks for passport info, which i provided. But then it asks how you are american (born in US, born abroad of US citiz, naturalized). I was naturalized, but here's the problem. When getting my citizinship, I believe I went from alien straight to the passport (no naturalization number). So now the EPSQ wants my naturalization info and quite frankly, I don't have it aside from SSN, Selective Service info, passport info, federal grants, etc.

I obviously don't want to leave this area blank so does anybody know anything about this or how to approach the situation. Meanwhile, I have endless numbers of calls in to the INS requesting info.

I was hoping maybe you, wink, would have some experience from your recruiting days.

Obviously i don't want to send the form in with blanks b/c who knows how long they will hold up my application.

I would greatly appreciate any info/help regarding this situation.

I'm off to MEPS next wknd. :eek:
 
Tom

Tom

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MEPS is a great time. Remember to wear underwear that is not crazy with dragons on it. I saw a guy like that, but he was enlisting in the Army, so....
As for your EPSQ, I would say to ask your recruiter. If they do not know, either they or you could call your processor and get it figured out. It sounds like you do not exactly fit into the category, so you are not at fault in my opinion.
 
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gtg941f

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Hopefully MEPS goes smoothly but unfortunately it's on a Saturday so I guess it'll be busy.

I'm going to contact my senators/congressman's offices to see if they can help me out regarding the INS junk. My recruiter is kind of discouraged by this b/c he wants the EPSQ to be full, as do I
 
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123Fly

Registered User
I was born abroad to a us parent. I simply could not find my citizenship numer or whatever they asked for but my recruiter said not to worry. If they had any problems he said they would contact me in the future. I have taken it to MEPS and had it printed and they said it doesn't matter as long as I have my passport number included.
 
wink

wink

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gtg941f said:
I know you don't want to hear another EPSQ question but here it goes.

I was pro-rec'd SNA this past month and am now filling out the EPSQ. I moved to Texas from Canada when I was 14, and obtained citizenship in Dallas (my dad is American). The EPSQ asks for passport info, which i provided. But then it asks how you are american (born in US, born abroad of US citiz, naturalized). I was naturalized, but here's the problem. When getting my citizinship, I believe I went from alien straight to the passport (no naturalization number). So now the EPSQ wants my naturalization info and quite frankly, I don't have it aside from SSN, Selective Service info, passport info, federal grants, etc.

I obviously don't want to leave this area blank so does anybody know anything about this or how to approach the situation. Meanwhile, I have endless numbers of calls in to the INS requesting info.

I was hoping maybe you, wink, would have some experience from your recruiting days.

Obviously i don't want to send the form in with blanks b/c who knows how long they will hold up my application.

I would greatly appreciate any info/help regarding this situation.

I'm off to MEPS next wknd. :eek:
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If you are born to a US citizen you are a natural born citizen. You should be ok as is. No naturalization number required.
 
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gtg941f

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wink said:
If you are born to a US citizen you are a natural born citizen. You should be ok as is. No naturalization number required.
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That's the problem. I was born Canadian->naturalized in Dallas but my status went directly to a passport (no naturalization certificate in the middle as some would expect).

I've really got to pester the INS but being part of the beaurocracy, it's quite difficult to get ANY information from them without money and waiting a year. I'm really just hoping my dallas INS office didn't mess somethign up. :icon_tong
 
Goober

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gtg941f said:
That's the problem. I was born Canadian->naturalized in Dallas but my status went directly to a passport (no naturalization certificate in the middle as some would expect).

I've really got to pester the INS but being part of the beaurocracy, it's quite difficult to get ANY information from them without money and waiting a year. I'm really just hoping my dallas INS office didn't mess somethign up. :icon_tong
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We should have suspected it all along. So that's how you were pulling it off...damn Canucks, coming over here and buying up our expensive medication, making us dislike our own domestically-brewed beer, and spreading hate and discontent in our National Hockey League.

Oh, you'll get yours buddy...just you wait. Infiltrators... ;)
 
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gtg941f

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Goober said:
We should have suspected it all along. So that's how you were pulling it off...damn Canucks, coming over here and buying up our expensive medication, making us dislike our own domestically-brewed beer, and spreading hate and discontent in our National Hockey League.

Oh, you'll get yours buddy...just you wait. Infiltrators... ;)
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:eek: haha, I'm definitely about to get mine :( I know that if i leave that section blank on my EPSQ i'm going be screwed.

I'm going to play hockey ;)
 
wink

wink

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In your first post you said your father was a uS citizen. Was he a citizen when you were born? If so, you are a natural born US citizen no matter where you were born. If he was still Canadian when you were born then maybe there is an issue. That one would be beyond me. Good luck.
 
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gtg941f

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thanks for trying to help wink. my dad naturalized while living in canada. his father was at one point american and in the Navy during WWII so he was pretty easily given citizenship and from there I got mine. AHhhhhhhh! this is so confusing.
 
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saltpeter

Registered User
Call OPM directly to recitify your question. The Office of Personnel Management handles all security investigations and will be able to put your mind at ease. No doubt you'll have to explain your situation to the investigator when you meet with him.
 
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gtg941f

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pilot
saltpeter said:
Call OPM directly to recitify your question. The Office of Personnel Management handles all security investigations and will be able to put your mind at ease. No doubt you'll have to explain your situation to the investigator when you meet with him.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll give them a call and see what they have to say.

I hate to be paranoid but I really don't want to mess this up as it means so much to me :D
 
FlyinSpy

FlyinSpy

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I can just about guarantee that calling OPM would be an exercise in frustration. Don't overanalyze this - the EPSQ is nothing but a reference from which the investigator will proceed. You may get a little bit more attention than usual during the process, but since you already have a passport you are most definitely an American citizen.

Bottom line: Fill out what you know and submit it, and let the bureaucracy go to work.
 
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