http://news.yahoo.com/f-16-pilot-ready-ram-hijacked-plane-9-194138786.html?nc
Can't imagine that we didn't have a better plan, but I guess we do now...
Can't imagine that we didn't have a better plan, but I guess we do now...
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F-16 ramming a 757?
- Thread starter ChunksJR
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All I can visualize after reading that is the scene in AF1 where the eagle driver puts his plane between the missile and AF1. Always wondered why he didn't eject prior to impact.
"With only 105 lead-nosed bullets on board..."
I think that might do a fair amount of damage to a large, non-maneuvering, target.
I think that might do a fair amount of damage to a large, non-maneuvering, target.
Could you FOD out an engine by flying in front of an airplane and putting out a shitload of chaff?
If you don't have missiles it's likely you don't have expendables.
Here’s a CSPAN interview with one the pilots if the initial 2 ship launch. It explains the decisions that were made. It’s long, but worth watching.
http://www.c-span.org/Events/AHTV-Remembers-911/10737423828-1/
http://www.c-span.org/Events/AHTV-Remembers-911/10737423828-1/
Right. But what if you run out of missiles and BBs? Would chaff be substantial and dense enough to snuff an engine? I've never seen it dispensed---I'm just curious.
Kinda far-fetched, but I imagine it is possible. You'd just have to get enough of the stuff into the actual core of the engine. Most of the air going through those bad boys never even sees combustion, so it's only got the one big whirly blade at the front to pass through, not the whole bunch of churning metal in the core.
Not likely from a tac-air craft. 60 rounds in an EA-6B and they are usually a mix of chaff and flares. When you break apart a chaff round it is more a fine fibrous mass (of specific lengths) than strips of hard material. Would make no difference to a high-bypass turbofan even if you could toss it right in.
Makes sense. Thanks guys, sorry about the threadjack.
That's the first thing I thought of when reading that article. You only get one chance. I would think it would be VERY difficult to aim for a specific part (i.e. Cockpit or tail), eject, and still hit it. You would probably need a pretty quick closure rate to maximize the damage. It would be a very very small window in my mind of when you had both the opportunity to eject, and a 'good feeling' about the success of the maneuver.
Then again, I have very little flight time, and no experience in a gray jet.
I remember some of the old sim guys telling us that only one or two pieces of lead in the engine can pretty much make it useless.
Might be weight and balance.
It might've simply been all that the squadron had immediately available. (Just a wild guess.)
