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Fighter Pilot: Afghanistan

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Yankee Uniform Tango
An excellent British TV series following British RAF and RN Harrier squadrons, has been posted on YouTube. Their training, workups and subsequent deployments to Afghanistan are all covered in detail, with excellent footage throughout. The Brits are doing some good work, but I was surprised that their tours are only 4 months!

There are 6 episodes @ 30 mins each. Here's part 1/3 of Episode 1:

 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
Also of note, the Brits had 24/7 porn running in the maintenance control shop in Khandahar.

Must be nice not to be saddled with Tailhook '91.
 

pilot_man

Ex-Rhino driver
pilot
I wonder if you can see any Hornets drilling holes in the sky over that airfield :icon_rage
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
I wonder if you can see any Hornets drilling holes in the sky over that airfield :icon_rage

No, but one caught fire and nearly burned to the ground there recently.

I think they were a boat divert or something. They were refueling it when it caught fire. Something about the APU running. It was cold fuel, but for some reason the kept the ape running? Any idea why? INS? Troubleshooting AVI?
 

HokiePilot

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
No, but one caught fire and nearly burned to the ground there recently.

I think they were a boat divert or something. They were refueling it when it caught fire. Something about the APU running. It was cold fuel, but for some reason the kept the ape running? Any idea why? INS? Troubleshooting AVI?

There is a SIR out for it with a lot of good learning points. I would suggest you try to get a copy of it. PM me your Marine Corps e-mail if you want it.
 

Ave8tor

Bringing the Noise!™
pilot
Quick question to HD or Squeeze... I was wondering if you know why the Brits fly with the refueling probe extended? I see a plethora of video on YouTube with their jets in this configuration (or maybe it's just old footage from previous models).
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
Quick question to HD or Squeeze... I was wondering if you know why the Brits fly with the refueling probe extended? I see a plethora of video on YouTube with their jets in this configuration (or maybe it's just old footage from previous models).

Their FA2 Sea Harriers, like the old AV-8C (a derivitive of the AV-8A....don't try to figure that out) had fixed refueling probes. Kind of like the A-6/EA-6.

The GR7/9's as well as the USMC AV-8B have retractable (and removable for that matter) probes. We only extend them to tank, or often times on the ground while taking hot gas. This ensures (in theory) that the tanks are depressurized and prevents fuel spills.

That should always be the case with weight on wheels, but many fuel pits and squadrons still want to do it that way. I think it's stupid and not mechanically supported by fact, but it doesn't hurt anything, so why not.

The Brits in KAF take it a step further by parking the jets with the probe out for the same reason. They take cold fuel that way. Since the engine isn't even running, there's even less logic behind it, but as before, it doesn't hurt anything, so why not.

We did this for awhile on my last tour in Iraq because the East Coast squadron we were hosted by did this.

In answer to your basic question, what you are seeing flying with the probes out is either an FA2 (obsolete, hence an old picture) or a GR7/9 about to tank. That makes sense because that's when many pictures are taken.

They don't fly with their probes out as a matter of course. You're restricted to 300 kts and won't have pressurized tanks (unless the probe switch is forward in the "press" position. That's only used when the probe fails to retract and you need the gas in your tanks to get home.
 

Semper Jump Jet

Ninja smoke...POOF.
pilot
Also of note, the Brits had 24/7 porn running in the maintenance control shop in Khandahar.

Must be nice not to be saddled with Tailhook '91.


Second that, wall to wall boobs on the desk, makes it hard to sign out the jet...

Fun Fact: I'm actually in this video. For two seconds. With my gas mask on.

Honest.
 

Semper Jump Jet

Ninja smoke...POOF.
pilot
I was surprised that their tours are only 4 months!

It was a continuous det for 5 years; three squadrons means 4 months out of the year in KAF. The jets were rotated out in pairs on a seperate maint. schedule, so you could just high-five with the oncoming squadron and be back in the UK in as little as 8 hours. Since the whole force was pretty much current it was even possible to 'guest' for a month or so in theater, in case somebody had to get home for baby leave, PME, etc. A very gentlemanly way to run a war.
 

widow_34

Member
Amen to that Semper,and I can vouch for the top work the Brit Harriers did for us on the ground.Even my favorite USMC exchange pilot. Semper I thought I had you for CAS at Otterburn a few weeks ago, turns out it wasnt.How many USMC GR-9 jockeys are with the RAF? Anyway listen out for ''Gunshot 10'' when working with JFACTSU and I still owe you a few beers for helping me out over Helmand.Just make sure you dont ''drop'' them by mistake:D
 

pilot_man

Ex-Rhino driver
pilot
It was a continuous det for 5 years; three squadrons means 4 months out of the year in KAF. The jets were rotated out in pairs on a seperate maint. schedule, so you could just high-five with the oncoming squadron and be back in the UK in as little as 8 hours. Since the whole force was pretty much current it was even possible to 'guest' for a month or so in theater, in case somebody had to get home for baby leave, PME, etc. A very gentlemanly way to run a war.


I would love to be able to go back for a month or so every once in a while. Sounds like they do it right.
 
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