Getting credit for prior service for pay purposes at OCS

[ray25017]

I have a question about pay...

I was active duty from '96-'00 (standard, 4-year active tour). When my initial contract was about to expire, I extended for a year (while drilling in the reserves) which took me to 9 years for longevity. Then, after about two years of broken time, I re-enlisted for one year with a reserve unit. In the end, I have 9 years, 4 months, and 9 days of time. (Even though my original PEBD was in June of 96, it was shifted to Dec 10, 1997 to account for my broken time). In summary, I'm over 8 for pay, with 6 satisfactory years, and 4 active towards retirement. I'm assuming my PEBD will, yet again, be shifted to account for my broken time (from now going back to April 2007).

Long story short, How will all this play out at OCS? My DD214 does not reflect this, but my Official Military Personnel File (or, OMPF) does. My OMPF is on an official CD. I can't imagine that the admin personnel at OCS are going to actually pop the CD in to look at my 'individual separation information' page?

Thanks to anyone who can shed any guidance on this...

 

[The Renegade]

There is a pay and personnel system the people at PSD uses to determine how much time in service you have. Same system used by DFAS, but read only... it adds everything up so PSD will know how much time in service you have.

 

[ray25017]

Thanks for the reply.

Ok... So in Newport, they'll run my SSN and this master database will give them dates (or, do all the math for them) to determine my new PEBD, pay, and so on?

 

[ea6bflyr]

You may run into issues, depending on PSD support. It may also take a while to get your pay squared away, but you will get back pay once it's settled. Make sure you have CLEAR documentation to prove your case later on. While you are in OCS, you may not have time to get it fixed.

When I reported to Pensacola after commissioning from NROTC, I had no prior service pay issues, but buddies that attended different NROTCs had multiple prior service pay issues but ended up getting all the back pay.

-ea6bflyr

 

[Ken_gone_flying]

^^^What he said. I was one of those prior enlisted guys that did have a problem getting my O-1E pay set up. I had to be persistent, but about 4 months after OCS graduation, I finally was collecting O-1E pay. Good luck, hope they get it squared away quicker for you.

 

[HH-60H]

I agree with all the above. When I was a DivO one of my Sailors had a related problem. He had broken Navy service, but it wasn't being counted for longevity purposes, specifically he wasn't getting a higher rate of sea pay.

Since he required specific personal attention and, of course, didn't have any hard copies of paperwork (no DD-214) I had to hold his hand through the process.

I got him logged onto the BUPERS website, ordered his CD and then waited a couple weeks. Then we got the CD opened it up and found the electronic copy of his old DD-214. We printed it out, I took it to our squadron's Admin shop and in a couple weeks he got a big chunk of back pay.

In the end the two most important things were persistance and paperwork.

Out of curiousity, why doesn't your DD-214 reflect this info? I don't know the ins and outs of getting DD-214s for reserve service, is that the issue?

 

[OnTopTime]

Out of curiousity, why doesn't your DD-214 reflect this info? I don't know the ins and outs of getting DD-214s for reserve service, is that the issue?

A DD-214 is a "Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty." Generally, no DD-214 is issued after completing a period of reserve service. I believe that for a reservist, a DD-214 is issued only after completing a period of active service, but I'm not sure if there's a minimum number of days for that active service before a DD-214 can be issued.

 

[HH-60H]

A DD-214 is a "Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty." Generally, no DD-214 is issued after completing a period of reserve service. I believe that for a reservist, a DD-214 is issued only after completing a period of active service, but I'm not sure if there's a minimum number of days for that active service before a DD-214 can be issued.

That makes sense. The way the OP framed his situation, I got the impression that it should/could have been in the DD-214, but I guess not.

 

[ray25017]

Thanks all for the replies...

I talked to my dad (a retired Senior Chief who did a stint with prior service recruiting) and he said (as was previously mentioned in the thread) that I wasn't wrong by not receiving a DD214 when leaving from the reserves -- unless certain types of active duty was performed. That's why the proof of my service is only found on the CD i was issued by MMSB (the Marine Corps' manpower system). In any case, I'll just hold on to the CD that I was issued as my Official Military Personnel File (OMPF) and hope it gets itself worked out sooner than later.