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tougs9

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Is the gouge on this site really the information they give you at API or is it a little different
 

Banjo33

AV-8 Type
pilot
Some of it is carbon copy other parts are hit or miss. I think it's close enough for you to study until you have the class and know what's bad/outdated and what is current.
 

NavyLonghorn

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Their is no need for the Gouge. The books are good, the classes are taught well. Alot of the gouge is wrong, alot of it is old, its kind of a waste to weed through it. If you are not 100% on the material, the gouge can easily throw you off. Atleast 10 questions on the API practice tests were wrong, for instance.

That being said, I looked at the test to get a feel for how much I knew.. but that was a last day sort of event, nothing that happened early on in my study process.

My average was around 95, so I am not an absolute athority here, but, Live by the Gouge, die by the Gouge.
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
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a chimpanzee could pass the academics at API..... don't worry about it.

like the above said, if you listen in the classes (especially to the test reviews) you'll do fine. bring your trusty highlighter and listen for the foot stomps.
 

Road Program

Hangin' on by the static wicks
None
Foot stomps? I can only think of two classes where we got foot stomps, but when we got them, they were loud and clear.
 

bch

Helo Bubba
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SteveG75 said:
"Live by the gouge, die by the gouge"

And in the case of API you will probably DIe by the gouge. EVERYTHING you need to succeed in API is given to you in an easy to find formart. Each chapter has ELO's (Enabling Learning Objective ????). The test questions can only come from those. When you study the book, if something is not an ELO, don't waste your time with it. If it is, you better know it cold.
 

nittany03

Recovering NFO. Herder of Programmers.
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Better yet, highlight the ELOs before class wherever they show up in the main text. Makes studying a whole lot easier. But I agree with the general sentiment above. The best way to avoid the so-called "purge" is to study your ass off and guarantee you won't be "that guy" who is wavering on the edge of getting cut.
 

VarmintShooter

Bottom of the barrel
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The key to the tests is knowing the ELOs (like Bch and Nittany said). I made flashcards for myself when I was there of the ELOs and studied them with my study group. Usually a couple others in the group had made their own and sometimes had a slightly different take on what the ELO was asking, so we ended up with enough info to do reasonably well on the tests.

I was never a fan of any gouge that wasn't straight ELOs. The weather gouge back then was worthless and that was the last time in API I seriously looked at anything but ELOs.

For the Nav test I did the homework from the book. Didn't get it all done, but the majority of it (I was in a wedding that weekend in North Carolina). That would be my suggestion for the Nav test.
 

E5B

Lineholder
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VarmintShooter said:
The key to the tests is knowing the ELOs (like Bch and Nittany said). I made flashcards for myself when I was there of the ELOs and studied them with my study group. Usually a couple others in the group had made their own and sometimes had a slightly different take on what the ELO was asking, so we ended up with enough info to do reasonably well on the tests.

I'd like to emphasize the above statement. Studying the ELO's is definitely key, but study them in a way that you can pick out the answer out of serveral "distractors". Try not to study the ELO's the same way everytime because they are rarely going to be worded like they are in the books.
 

NavyLonghorn

Registered User
Everyone defenitly has their own method. I never even looked at a single ELO to be honest. I think the key to this discussion is that gouge sucks.
 

Pap

Naval Aviator
pilot
I didn’t even know where the ELO's were in the books. I did not use them in OCS or API. I just paid attention during class and especially when the instructor conducted a review the day before the test. I thought that studying in a group was really helpful also. You might not understand something but chances are that someone else in the group could explain it to you.

The gouge is good to go over once you have already studied the entire book and understand everything that the instructor covered in the review. However, do not look at the gouge first and then attempt to study the book. The gouge could be totally misleading.

Besides, I don’t know how many people are going to be sharing the good gouge anyway, now that they are trying to attrite people out of API. Is it still going to be cooperate to graduate????
 

NavyLonghorn

Registered User
No reason not to share gouge. The way the NSS works, passing gouge back wont hurt you, and you are not in direct competition with your classmates.
 

Pap

Naval Aviator
pilot
There are always individuals around that think that it is in there best interest to hold the gouge for themselves. I think we all knew someone like that in API, I know I did. Those type of individuals will be even worse now. Some people just don’t get it.
 
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