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Huey

HeyJoe

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Huey at Sea...but, of course!!

MEU (SOC) deploys with an Air Combat Element (ACE), which is a composite squadron that typically includes UH-N, AH-1W, CH-53D/E and CH-46 (eventually V-22) and can include Harriers. Here's what's next for H-1 series, the UH-1Y and AH-1Z, which just completed sea trials.
 

HeyJoe

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Here's a better profile of the "Yankee" doing testing with jumpers
 

Gatordev

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A brand new helicopter, and it's already got exhaust crap everywhere. Do the Marines EVER do 14-days? (in effect, and all that)
 

KBayDog

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^A dirty bird is job security. Just like Thursday night field days in the enlisted barracks. You always gotta have something to clean - it's the Marine Corps way.
 

Gatordev

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But that's just the thing. I would see them walk them over to the wash rack (in a very un-Marine manner, I might add), and I'd see them walk them back, but they never looked like they got the soap put on. Maybe that just proves your point.
 

skidkid

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That problem will be adressed by the new exhaust system. It is hard to remove the carbon when the exhuast goes right onto the tail boom. Oh and it also helps survivability adn tailboom life.
 

Gatordev

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First up, I know we're all just shooting the breeze here, but...

skidkid said:
It is hard to remove the carbon when the exhuast goes right onto the tail boom.

Raising the BS flag here. We have the same engines, and if someone takes the time to get up there w/ a scrubber and some B&B, it goes away. I've scrubbed my fair share of gray.

As for survivability...well that's a MUCH better answer. I mean who's going to argue "it gives us better deceptive colors and breaks up the lines" w/ a Marine?

Again, all in effect.
 

skidkid

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actually if I am not mistaken your exhaust nozzles are directed away from your tailboom where ours currently are directed right at it. This has been ID'd as an issue on the Z/Y it was actually heating up the tailboom and weakening the metal so there will be new IR supressors that turn the exhuat out and and away from the boom and thus less carbon.

All our washrack work is done by onctractors unless on the boat and let me tell you how hard it is to get fresh water to wash birds on the boat.
 

ChuckMK23

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skidkid said:
That problem will be adressed by the new exhaust system. It is hard to remove the carbon when the exhuast goes right onto the tail boom. Oh and it also helps survivability adn tailboom life.

If you do it every day it's not a problem :)

Any commercial helo job one of your last tasks at the end of your shift is to scrub the tailboom (long handled truck scrub brush) with detergent and hose down.
 

skidkid

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ChuckMK23 said:
Any commercial helo job one of your last tasks at the end of your shift is to scrub the tailboom (long handled truck scrub brush) with detergent and hose down.

Well Ill just cross that off the lsit of possible jobs-jsut kidding well sort of. That would never work at an HMLA, it would cut into our crush the LTs debriefs that we are famous for.
 

ChuckMK23

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skidkid said:
Well Ill just cross that off the lsit of possible jobs-jsut kidding well sort of. That would never work at an HMLA, it would cut into our crush the LTs debriefs that we are famous for.

Believe me - it was one of the biggest things I had to learn flying commercial Helos. We had to clean our own windshields, keep everything perfect in the cabin for pax, etc. Uggh. Add to that no crewman in the back, making sure the cabin doors are closed properly, jump in strap in, crank up, only to have a pax accidently open the sliding cabin door (on a huey mind you) - shut down, close door (FAA mandates a warning light if the door is even slightly adjar), tell pax to please not to f*ck with said door, strap back in , crank back up, now your late for your ETA, etc...

All single pilot of course

Now you see why I didn't think flying commercial helos was a lifetime employment prospect :)
 

Gatordev

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skidkid said:
actually if I am not mistaken your exhaust nozzles are directed away from your tailboom where ours currently are directed right at it. This has been ID'd as an issue on the Z/Y it was actually heating up the tailboom and weakening the metal so there will be new IR supressors that turn the exhuat out and and away from the boom and thus less carbon.

I'm sure the engineers can tell us that ours point away compared to you guys, but as for day to day, we have the same problem. It blows back on the tailboom, driveshaft and stab. But sure, it does blow out a little, as I can tell you first hand. During crew swaps when it's cold, I've been known to stand out a bit and under the exhaust where it's nice and toasty.

All our washrack work is done by onctractors unless on the boat and let me tell you how hard it is to get fresh water to wash birds on the boat.

The -53Ds didn't have such niceties as contract maintenance. As for the boat... I know what you mean. I'm guessing if there ever was another ship in the modern era that can rival a frigate's lack of water, it's a gator. But hey, NWP says 100 gals/bird/day, so the shoes can go suck it. I think we came up w/ about 90 gals used for an average 7-day wash job.
 

KBayDog

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