http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060822/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/marines_call_up
Looks like some more call-ups are on the horizon.
Looks like some more call-ups are on the horizon.
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IRR Recall
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I like how the press makes it out as if there was some sort of illegality to this whole process. What part of reserve do people not understand when they still hold an obligation to the military. Its not like there arent checks and balances in the system for when you come back if you were employed or pursuing higher education. Piss and moan if you want but when you sign the dotted line and give power of attorney of your butt over to Uncle Sam you'd do well to take into account just what all capacities you can and will be obligated to serve in.
Of course, this is now being turned into a political issue ... i.e., "everything is going so bad we have to call up little old grandfathers and grandmothers ... " (I heard this "argument" today ... 
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If we had a military draft
... the manpower problem would be over. All-Volunteer is great for peacetime --- but for "wartime" or whatever passes for war today ???
All-Volunteer??? Please .... spare me. :sleep_125
)If we had a military draft
... the manpower problem would be over. All-Volunteer is great for peacetime --- but for "wartime" or whatever passes for war today ??? All-Volunteer??? Please .... spare me. :sleep_125
Got called up a few weeks ago for an IRR mobilization drill. About 60 of us gathered at the Baltimore Reserve Center for a two hour lecture on our IRR responsibilities and a pitch for joining the drilling Reserve or volunteering for mobilization.
Did my two hours and went home and hugged my NOE letter.
As lawman says, there's a reason that the ID card has an "indefinite" on the exparation date. Knew it when I took the oath.
Did my two hours and went home and hugged my NOE letter.
As lawman says, there's a reason that the ID card has an "indefinite" on the exparation date. Knew it when I took the oath.
What, our little GWOT not good enough for you?
It's "war" only for the guys who are getting shot at and/or their families --- for the rest of the populace, most of whom are clueless and really don't care --- except for occassionally mouthing some mindless "we support the troops" slogans --- it's business as usual.
War? What is it good for ... ?? Absolutely nuthin' .... unless you do it right.
Zilch
This...is...Caketown!
I'm about to invoke my Top Three Decisions NOT to Make Unless You are 100% Certain You're Ready:
1. Having Children
2. Getting Married
3. Joining the Military
They aren't exactly reversible, if later on you find it's not what you wanted. People will make uninformed decisions and mistakes do happen. Still, it's the individual's reponsibility.
/end parental rant
Sounds alot like how my Grandfather described Korea.... went, served his year, got back on a Thursday, went to his civilian job on Monday.
The more things change, the more they stay the same...???????
I didn't get that impression from the article. Were you referring to this one or something else you've heard. When I did my tour as an XO of a reserve center, we had a number of sailors called up who were in the IRR. The practice is nothing new. People may b!tch and moan, but eight years means eight years.
Little of Column A, Little of Column B. Its more from the language and choice of wording they use in the article (and others) that to Joe Q Civilian would look as though the military is out their screwing over people who dont actually still owe any commitment to the service.
Examples:
"there is no cap on the total number who may be forced back into service"
Could have use the term Reactivated but no that grabs the eye of the ever watchful libral reader who's looking for something else to complain about when it comes to the military. Even the phrase "Involuntary Recall" sets off a tone to it that it is wrong in some way.
I see where you're coming from and can see how it could be misunderstood by J.Q. Public. I believe they ARE being forced back into service. HOWEVER, when they signed on the dotted line (and then subsequently left active duty) they knew (or should have) that getting recalled was a possibility. So in essence, they agreed beforehand that they could potentially be "forced" back into service. As for the phrase, "Involuntary Recall," that's exactly what it is. You can be a "Voluntary Recall" or an "Involuntary Recall."