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Just took the ASTB (Nov 30, 05)

baryon

Registered User
Howdy, all (longtime reader, firstime contributor)--

Took the (paper) ASTB on Wednesday (don't know how I did yet). Would have posted what I thought earlier, except that airwarriors went down. First off, thanks to everyone posting their guides/gouge (still unclear as to the meaning of "gouge"); as a lot of people have said: you all deserve a beer. No, four.

But. There's a new ASTB. It's not covered entirely by the ARCO book. Things still covered by the ARCO book are: math section, mechanical comp, ANT, and spatial apperception. Not covered: reading comprehension and the...supplemental test (!!).

Firstly, the reading comp is exactly that. No more, no less. No sentance completion, no "find the wrong word and replace with right word," no general word knowledge. Only paragraphs, where your task is to select the most right answer about the paragraph. Thank god I'm a fast reader, because some of those answers are triiicky. For a bunch of them, the selection is more of a "pick the least objectionable answer" rather than "pick the best answer." I did have time enough to reread the entire section over again, but still. Compared to the GRE (which I've also taken and gotten in the top 8 percentile in verbal), this is kinda tricky. Not to scare anyone--it's not hard, it's just tricky.

Second. The supplemental test. At first I thought it was the BI, but when the instructions came ("This is a math knowledge test.") I thought to myself "home free!" since I consider myself to be pretty good at math. "Can I have some scratch paper?" I asked. "No, the instructions don't have that in them, so, no." "Can I write in the book and then erase it?" "Definitely not."

O...K...

So the moral of the story is: be prepared to do all the problems you did in the first math section in your head. In fact, there were some harder questions whose answers weren't even integer answers. E.g. pipe #1 fills a bucket in 43.64 seconds, pipe #2 fills the same bucket in 57.92 seconds; in 4 minutes and 27.41 seconds, how many more buckets does pipe #1 fill than pipe #2? It's not too bad if you're really good at ballparking/estimating.

Also the ANT section has stuff you might not ever know unless you've either gotten your PPL (and possibly not even then), or studied the FAA handbook to death (it's 400 pages, but chock full of all the info you need, and also online).

Overall, not terrible, but I missed two mech questions and forgot to guess.

Afterwards, talking with some of the ensigns/LJGs, I found out that only about 15 out of 200 of the naval acad SNAs got jets. And only 1 in 100 marine SNAs from the naval acad got jets. 1. Damn.
 

staff

Registered User
To be really honest though, I don't think it matters at all how you get commissioned whether it be through the academy,ROTC, BDCP, OCS, etc.. I think that if you want that jet slot all that matters is how good you are. For all you guys out there worried about flying a jet that didn't graduate from the academy, don't worry-the only thing that matters is how good of a pilot you are and that is solely in your hands!
 

baryon

Registered User
well, it sounds exactly that way. (by which i mean merit-based, and nothing else).

on the other hand, merit can be obtained in more than one way. one guy i was told of that did get jets had a PPL/IR before he could drive, was on the aerobatics team in the academy, and had 1000 hours logged--before he even went to pcola. man, i wish i had parents who'd get me a PPL/IR before i could drive. :icon_tong

not bitter, just saying some people come equipped with more than just their brains at flight school. some lucky people. heh.
 

baryon

Registered User
scores

Guys, thanks for all the help/gouge. As I said above, it was great. And Tara's remark about the FAA's handbook of knowledge (somewhere around here) is right on the money. Every non-history aviation question is covered by the handbook, or so I now believe.

AQR 8
PFAR 7
FOFAR 8
OAR 62.
 

Scotty-O

Due to the government,I feel over-stimulated.
Nice scores baryon!!
firefriendly -I've heard the same Catch-22 about having civil pilot training before you apply for selection - they want you to have some knowledge and maybe some training, but not TOO much....
Anyone have experience with the Army AFAST vs the layout of the ASTB? I took the AFAST a couple years ago for Army flight and did really well, but don't want to get cocky thinking it will carry over to ASTB. I know the nautical terms will be new.
Anyone seen both?? Oh, and just FYI, I didn't go into the Army helo program for a number of reasons and now working on going USCG flight.
 

Djnutz

Registered User
How to I better my ASTB Score

Fellow Aviators,

I am a civilian pilot in the process of completing my Commercial and ME ratings however a horrible test taker. I took the ASTB twice before the change to the new system and my new ASTB scores still aren't the best; i.e. AQR (5) PFAR (6) FFF (5) and OAR (42) despite having studied the ARCO book cover to cover each time.

I am a soon to be college grad. with a B.S. in Flight Operations but fear I will not be able to make the cut for OCS and subsequent aviation selection. Is there hope for me?

Aspiring Flier
 
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