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KC-130 Pilots

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EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
I'll be willing to take any aircraft they give me, and I realized that there isn't much chat about this aircraft. Anyone out there flying this big 'ol prop bird? Just would like some input on it. Thanks. Semper FI

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
Anyone? Surely someone on this board has flown in it atleast a few times. Semper Fi.

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
HaHa. Thanks Hudosn. Anyone in the left seat?

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
HaHa. Thanks Hudosn. Anyone in the left seat?

What about lifestyle of KC-130 pilots? Obviously, they cant land on a boat, so what does their deployments consist of?

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
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Short 1-3 week or so dets. These happen on short notice, and are fairly frequent. Your deployed time will be about the same as your peers, just in smaller chunks. Whether that's better or worse depends on your point of view.

Phrogs phorever
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
Thanks. Anyone else?


Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
It used to be a pretty cushy gig. Not a great deal of tactical work. Most of their operational work was concentrated on refueling. Stateside, they got tagged with carrying the band around, or hauling whatever needed moving from one base to another.

Enduring Freedom, in particular the ops in Afghanistan, really made them stretch their legs and get more tactical. A C-130 bubba I know said that planners would ask, "Can you do this? It's in your METLs (Mission Essential Task List)." Often, the answer would be,"Well, the CO's the only guy in the squadron who's done that, and that was 15 years ago." In the end, though, they made it happen. They landed the preponderance of supplies at Camp Rhino at night, unaided, on a dirt strip that's barely two ruts in the sand. Hopefully this tactical refocusing will remain.

Phrogs phorever
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
So are these pilots looked "down" upon because they fly big birds? Is there any way of transition from 130's to jets after a while? Just curious. Thanks.

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

Rainman

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Hey! Delete one of your posts!

My opinion = nope.

As posted there are limited opportunities to lat transfer to another community (back to flight school baby!). Who would want to? Flying the Herc is pretty sought after in flight school b/c there are so few slots (and I've heard of cases where extra tall people can only fit in the Herc). It's a pretty decent job b/c you go to a lot of places that aircraft that travel with the MAGTF wouldn't get to go to--not to mention some per diem action. Something like 4-6% of Marine flight school slots go to Maritime == KC130 Hercules.

Once you get all the way done with flight school and the RAG, you gain proficiency and pick up 2nd In command quals. .and eventually aircraft commander (second tour maybe?).

I've spoken with maybe 6-8 Herc drivers and they all love it.
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
Thanks Rainman. Sorry about the post. I dont know what's going on. Anyways, what's "per diem"? and Maritime?

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
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"Maritime" is just the Navy/Marine term for the multi-engine prop pipline, which goes to P-3s in the USN and C-130s in the Corps. "Per diem" is the money you get for being on your own away from home base. It's meant to cover lodging and food, but usually it's more than adequate, and you bank the rest.

Oddly, enough, though there is no actual minimum NSS to go maritime, it's often harder to get C-130s than jets. There are rarely, if ever, any C-130 to strike transitions offered. C-130s are usually short of senior pilots, since their retention rate is even worse than jets--flying 4 engine aircraft is a very marketable skill, at least until recently.

Phrogs phorever
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
Thanks for the good gouge Phrog.

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 

Piggy

Registered User
Not sure if any other Battleherk drivers are on this Forum. I just found it myself.
But, I'd be happy to give you an overview of the Herk Community.
Most everyone loves the platform they wind up flying, but it's not hard to convert a guy once he gets to Herks. Whether the individual is a nugget out of flight school or a jet/helo transition.
Let me add on to what some of what PhrogDriver said.
It is a cushy gig in some respects, but not as much as much as a lot of people think. There's a lot of misperceptions towards out community.
There are times that we go and stay in the Outrigger Reef on Waikiki Beach and spend the afternoon at the Shorebird, but a lot of times we're in a tent in the mud flying night operations getting supposed crew rest during the day (like Pakistan/Afghanistan).
MEU support has been a staple for the East coast and West coast squadrons for years. They've both been involved in numerous NEO's and other events. As far as OEF goes, the first aircraft into Camp Rhino was a VMGR-252 aircraft landing on an unlit strip (except for tactical landing zone lighting) at night with no NVG's with 120 Marine grunts on board. Did a lot of people/trash moving, fuel resupply for the helicopters and helo AR. We normally don't get the sexy missions , but I think what we do is rewarding.
What PhrogDriver said about the MEU CO's tasking is true. Somehow, just like everyone else in the Marine Corps, we wind up able to support what the MEU needs.
But our bread and butter is aerial refueling, both jets and helos. We used to move all Marine Corps jets across the Atlantic and Pacific, but that's been taken over by the USAF. We still move Marine helos around over in Japan. Dragging them to the Philippines, Thailand, Korea and mainland Japan.
Lifestyle-wise, it's pretty good. It's a small community, so you wind up knowing most everyone, at least by name. And your reputation will precede you, whether it's good or bad. Like PhrogDriver said, deployments do tend to be shorter, but it's a double-edged sword. Where a VMFA typically knows a year out that they're going on a 6-month det, we only go for a couple of weeks at a time, but only get a couple of days notice. Time gone in a fleet squadron will usually be about a wash. Which way is better? Depends on what you like. I don't think I'd like to be gone for 6 months at a time, but there's a lot of times where personal plans get cancelled because you're the only one available and/or qualified to go do a mission.
Granted, I have a biased opinion, but it's hands down, the best aircraft in the Marine Corps (my opinion, of course). We can fly thousands of miles and land on any strip 3000' x 60' (or so) or longer in the world, any weather, day or night. While we don't get to drop bombs and shoot guns (like jets and cobras) or get the chance to put the 20-year-old steely-eyed killers in the zone that often, like the Phrogs and 53's, what we do is vital and it's pretty rewarding. My Dad was an F-4 driver and he told me when I picked Herks that as he remembered it, the tanker guys never had to buy their own beer at the Club. That's reason enough for me! haha
As far as transitions go, HQMC approves two transitions per year, by board selection. So, they're right, there's not much opportunity to get in after flight school. And due to the limited number of slots, a large number of pilots in this community were either #1 in their selection class or very close to it.
When you get into flight school, talk to the instructors in your primary squadron. Odds are, there will be a sampling from every community. Then, assuming you're in a position to control your own destiny pick the one that's right for you. Just cause you're ace of the base, doesn't mean you have to fly jets. Herks are awesome. Jets are fast and fun. Helos are the backbone of Marine Air.

My $.02

Piggy
 

EA-6B1

PLC Jrs 1st Inc. Kilo-3
Thanks Piggy. I appreciate all that you guys have put in to this topic. Sounds like a great aircraft. Like I said earlier, I'll take whatever they give me.

One more ?, Piggy, where are the bases that the Herk squadrons are located at? Thanks.

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men.
-Col.3:23-
 
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