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Marine PLC and the ASTB

jtl575s

Registered User
I am currently a Junior in college and have been looking for an answer to some questions. I have been thinking about doing the Marine Corps PLC for a long time hopefully with the aviation option. Has anybody went to PLC-Aviation? My other question is about the ASTB. If I were to not attend PLC and just decide to go to OCS after I graduate, when would I take the ASTB? Before or after I have already signed the contract and would I have any idea if I got a pilot slot before I signed the contract? Basically im looking for a timeline of what happens with regards to the tests and when I will know stuff before I sign the contract for ? years.
Thanks
 

scotty008

Back at last
pilot
You take the ASTB before signing the contract. If your scores are too low, they'll have you retake it until you are at the level considered competitive at the time. You sign the contract before your package goes to the board, and it pretty much says that if you get selected you will get to go to OCS, TBS, and eventually flight school if you get through everything. Pretty straight forward stuff that can be elaborated upon by an OSO. Good luck!
-on a side note, OCS selection is apparently more competitive than PLC. You get it over with in one wonderful 10 week stint at lovely brown field, as opposed to having to go back and do 6 weeks twice. I don't know that I could have handled two in-processings...
 

jamnww

Hangar Four
pilot
Few clarifications...

Yes you take the ASTB BEFORE signing your contract, however many times it takes to pass...
Air contracts do not have a seperate OCS, they just attend with everyone else. So for a timeline this is what it will look like... ASTB -> Sign contract -> OCS -> Sign new / commissioning contract -> Get commissioned -> TBS -> Pensacola for Flight School.

Yes, selection for OCS once you have completed college (ie OCC) will be much harder and you will just have to be that much better or expect to have to apply more times and therefore wait longer. OCC is a 10 week course that can occur throughout the year.

The PLC option has two methods of going through OCS but since you are a Junior you are limited to just one of those. The only option you can do at this late point in your college career is to go for a single 10 week course during the summer, typically Charlie Company June - August. Now if you had applied and been accepted earlier then you would have been given the option / been forced to go to 2 seperate 6 week courses.

Not sure if you asked but there are two contract durations, both of which START AFTER you get your WINGS (ie 2+ years into your Marine Corps career). They are dependant upon which airframe you select (helos = 6-8 yrs, Jets = 10 yrs give or take...).

Hope this helps, if not feel free to ask any further questions...
 

jtl575s

Registered User
Thanks for the replies. It has helped alot. So, after I take the ASTB, and if all goes well, I can have a pilots slot put into the contract before I sign it? Then off to OCS?
Thanks again
 

Sundown

Eight-year-olds, Dude...
jamnww said:
Few clarifications...

Yes you take the ASTB BEFORE signing your contract, however many times it takes to pass...

Wrong. It used to be like that. You get three chances to pass, that's it.
 

jamnww

Hangar Four
pilot
Sundown said:
Wrong. It used to be like that. You get three chances to pass, that's it.

I stand corrected thank you...just curious when did it change? even still I know a few people who the "Gunny helped along"...anyway...
 

jamnww

Hangar Four
pilot
jtl575s said:
Thanks for the replies. It has helped alot. So, after I take the ASTB, and if all goes well, I can have a pilots slot put into the contract before I sign it? Then off to OCS?
Thanks again

If all goes well on it, yes you will have an "aviation contract" which will state if you are slotted for an SNA(pilot) or NFO(operate the advanced systems onboard naval aircraft). They SHOULD have all of this straightened out before you sign it which will have to be done before you can attend OCS.

If you are a junior now then you are looking at a June - Aug OCS date...
 

Sundown

Eight-year-olds, Dude...
jamnww said:
I stand corrected thank you...just curious when did it change? even still I know a few people who the "Gunny helped along"...anyway...

I have no idea when it changed, but I'm guessing it was within the last 6 months because my OSO told me that I had as many times to take the ASTB as I wanted and then changed to the 3 strikes and you're out right after he said that. Not something that he had memorized yet, ya know?
 

Lawman

Well-Known Member
None
Sundown said:
I have no idea when it changed, but I'm guessing it was within the last 6 months because my OSO told me that I had as many times to take the ASTB as I wanted and then changed to the 3 strikes and you're out right after he said that. Not something that he had memorized yet, ya know?

Id like to see that on paper somewhere. It sounds more like your OSO is trying to avoid the headache of guys who are dead set on being a pilot but lack the test scores and wont get it through their head that they dont make the grade and should try another MOS. Knowing some of that silver tounged recruiter talk, I could easily see that happening.

jtl575s go take the ASTB and see what you can do with it. There are testing prep guides that you can read up on if you dont already have a good firm aviation/math/science background. That will give you a good idea as to where you stand in the pack of guys going for Air Slots.
 

Crowbar

New Member
None
Lawman said:
Id like to see that on paper somewhere. It sounds more like your OSO is trying to avoid the headache of guys who are dead set on being a pilot but lack the test scores and wont get it through their head that they dont make the grade and should try another MOS. Knowing some of that silver tounged recruiter talk, I could easily see that happening.

Here you go, Mr. Expert on Officer Accessions.
http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/directorates/astboverview.pdf
See "3 Test Lifetime Limit."
 
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