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Mecep Fy08
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Dhc2tacksby
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There isn't a set number as I understand it. The board seems to take who they think is qualified. If you search through the old maradmin's you may be able to figure out a percentage.
Perhaps, %80 who apply are accepted?
Perhaps, %80 who apply are accepted?
80%????
I think when I got accepted it was like 30% and that was considered a pretty high % for the year.
I believe they DO have a set number, so the percent varies with the # of applicants. When I was at MECEP Prep they had someone from the actual board that decides who gets accepted and who doesn't and it seemed like they just really look for a wide variety from a cross-section across the Marine Corps.
Several of us had NJP's on our records, and there is a high percent of Marines who get accepted on their second or third time trying. (An equally high percent of course were accepted on their first time applying)
I think when I got accepted it was like 30% and that was considered a pretty high % for the year.
I believe they DO have a set number, so the percent varies with the # of applicants. When I was at MECEP Prep they had someone from the actual board that decides who gets accepted and who doesn't and it seemed like they just really look for a wide variety from a cross-section across the Marine Corps.
Several of us had NJP's on our records, and there is a high percent of Marines who get accepted on their second or third time trying. (An equally high percent of course were accepted on their first time applying)
FY07: 239 eligible applicants, 120 selected, 4 alternates, 50.2% selection
FY06: 223 eligible applicants, 125 selected, 10 alternates, 56% selection
All this info came from the MCRC website, most of the links have been removed, but I copied it and posted it here a while back. I used to have 05 and 04 stats somewhere but can't find them. For reference, FY02 had a selection rate in the mid 20s and before that it was typically around 10-20%.
FY06: 223 eligible applicants, 125 selected, 10 alternates, 56% selection
All this info came from the MCRC website, most of the links have been removed, but I copied it and posted it here a while back. I used to have 05 and 04 stats somewhere but can't find them. For reference, FY02 had a selection rate in the mid 20s and before that it was typically around 10-20%.
0621girl
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ECP has a much higher acceptance rate (I think up around 85%) than MECEP. Its quicker too, although my best friend's husband is in MECEP right now and living the charmed life at college 4 days a week, living in a gorgeous area, non-competitive promotions, etc etc. Sounds nice........:icon_tong
joncaleb
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There is no set number for acceptance. They select whoever is qualified. If they think you may be a liability for any reason, they don't select you. MECEP is actually more competitive than MCP, at least percentage wise. MCP usually takes around 60 to 70 percent. MECEP usually only takes around 50. Part of the reason for this is that MECEP will receive 150 applicants a year, MCP will only receive around 20.
Is my CG a show stoppper for my MECEP package?
Air Warriors has helped infom me of many issues to which I needed answers. I post this thread with hope that you all can use your experience and knowledge of the military to get me out of a hole. Here's my story.
I am deployed in Iraq for 1 year as an E-4. I applied to the MECEP program this year and have completed my part of the package in June. It went through my chain of command and was passed onto the CG. Two days ago, approximately 2 months later, my CWO recieved a letter from the CG saying that I would not to be attending MECEP this year because of "keen competition." Maradmin 191/07, paragraph 6 states:" APPLICATIONS MUST REACH THE COMMANDING GENERAL (CG), MARINE CORPS RECRUITING COMMAND (ON-E) NO LATER THAN 1 AUGUST 2007, WITH ALL ENDORSEMENTS FROM THE MARINE'S CHAIN OF COMMAND TO INCLUDE A CG LEVEL ENDORSEMENT. DO NOT FORWARD APPLICATIONS TO MCRC
(ON-E) FOR APPLICANTS WHO ARE "NOT RECOMMENDED" FOR MECEP SELECTION BY THE MARINE'S CG LEVEL ENDORSEMENT.
If I am interpreting this correctly, the CG is supposed to either recommend me or not recommend me. The letter that I recieved didn't say that I wasn't recommended but that there was "keen competition" this year and that is why my package would not go any further. Is it in the CG's power to stop my package for that reason or should I have my chain of command take take this up to my CO so that my package can still have a chance to make it to HQ Marine Corps before the board convenes? Is this a matter where requesting mast would be in order (I've never had to use it for anything so I am not sure if it would be appropriate)?
I have also thought about the possiblity of "keen competition" meaning that he did not recommend me for the program. If so, how should I go about seeking clarification? I am fully prepared to bite the bullet and get ready to try again next year but if I still have a chance, then I want to do whatever it takes to get this error corrected. What do you all think?
Air Warriors has helped infom me of many issues to which I needed answers. I post this thread with hope that you all can use your experience and knowledge of the military to get me out of a hole. Here's my story.
I am deployed in Iraq for 1 year as an E-4. I applied to the MECEP program this year and have completed my part of the package in June. It went through my chain of command and was passed onto the CG. Two days ago, approximately 2 months later, my CWO recieved a letter from the CG saying that I would not to be attending MECEP this year because of "keen competition." Maradmin 191/07, paragraph 6 states:" APPLICATIONS MUST REACH THE COMMANDING GENERAL (CG), MARINE CORPS RECRUITING COMMAND (ON-E) NO LATER THAN 1 AUGUST 2007, WITH ALL ENDORSEMENTS FROM THE MARINE'S CHAIN OF COMMAND TO INCLUDE A CG LEVEL ENDORSEMENT. DO NOT FORWARD APPLICATIONS TO MCRC
(ON-E) FOR APPLICANTS WHO ARE "NOT RECOMMENDED" FOR MECEP SELECTION BY THE MARINE'S CG LEVEL ENDORSEMENT.
If I am interpreting this correctly, the CG is supposed to either recommend me or not recommend me. The letter that I recieved didn't say that I wasn't recommended but that there was "keen competition" this year and that is why my package would not go any further. Is it in the CG's power to stop my package for that reason or should I have my chain of command take take this up to my CO so that my package can still have a chance to make it to HQ Marine Corps before the board convenes? Is this a matter where requesting mast would be in order (I've never had to use it for anything so I am not sure if it would be appropriate)?
I have also thought about the possiblity of "keen competition" meaning that he did not recommend me for the program. If so, how should I go about seeking clarification? I am fully prepared to bite the bullet and get ready to try again next year but if I still have a chance, then I want to do whatever it takes to get this error corrected. What do you all think?
Have you seen this alleged letter (or email)? If not, I would track it down immediately. If you haven't yet seen it, just getting your hands on the original might answer some questions. I've never heard of somebody being recommended all the way up, then have a CG deny it.
I'm hesitant to say what I would do in this situation (technique only, of course) without knowing what the original communique says. See what you can find out and whether or not it clears anything up.
I'm hesitant to say what I would do in this situation (technique only, of course) without knowing what the original communique says. See what you can find out and whether or not it clears anything up.
I too have never heard of it geting all the way to the CG and getting batted down. Sounds like his G-1 might be a real dick. I also recommend what Crowbar said to do. If you get your hands on the message and those were the words that the CGs letter used, then that's gentlemen's speak for "you ain't gonna make it this time around." It's possible that the CG or the G-1 held their own little board and decide to drop the bottom few packages to make them look better to the real board. Dirty pool, yes, but I don't know what to tell you beyond that besides do more pullups, run faster, shoot a 65, and get 4.9s.
gaijin6423
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It's 250 on the range these days (again). At least it is until October, when Table II actually COUNTS for your score.
phrogpilot73
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More pullups, run faster, 4.9's, 65, 250, Table II... Things that are no longer in my lexicon as a Coastie! And no, I'm not going to miss them... 
I had my CWO forward me the email. This is what it says verbatim:
It is my assesment that your application for enrollment in the MECEP program will not result in selection at this time due to keen competition.Seek the advice and counsel of your chain of command on how to make your record more competitive."
Is it not the selection board's job to determine if I get selected or not? Why is the CG making that decision for me when he has not seen all the packages for the 08 board? I was highly recommend by the board held by my unit. My freaking package made it to HQ Marine Corps last year and my package this year is way better. I've gotten used to the big green weenie over the years but why now?
It is my assesment that your application for enrollment in the MECEP program will not result in selection at this time due to keen competition.Seek the advice and counsel of your chain of command on how to make your record more competitive."
Is it not the selection board's job to determine if I get selected or not? Why is the CG making that decision for me when he has not seen all the packages for the 08 board? I was highly recommend by the board held by my unit. My freaking package made it to HQ Marine Corps last year and my package this year is way better. I've gotten used to the big green weenie over the years but why now?
phrogpilot73
Well-Known Member
Dude, he's a general. It's his prerogative. I've never heard of a CG shooting it down, but I guess anythings possible. At least it indicates that he actually READ it...
I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, like was said above, he is a general. It is in the MARADMIN that the CG can not recommend you and just not send your package up. I still don't understand why he would do that. It comes across as pissing in the face of every CO so far who highly recommended you, but there are some generals out there who will do exactly that.
I don't think there's anything you can do at this point except respectfully request, key word "respectfully", that someone in your chain of command try to get the general to point out the weaknesses in your application. The worst he can say is no, but you might found out some good stuff. It sucks, but don't give up. There is so much more stuff you have to go through before you get where you want to be. If at any point you just say, "screw it" you wont get there. You'll just have to gut it out and deal with all the shit you run into and in the end it will be worth it. Trust me.