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Multi-year Super Hornet purchase coming

Fog

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FWIW, Forbes business news is reporting today (Oct 7) that the House & Senate Appropriations Committees have approved a multi-year purchase of new Super Hornets if an acceptable price can be negotiated. The article (sorry, couldn't link it) didn't say how many a/c involved or for how many years. Given that F-35s aren't likely to reach the fleet before 2015, I would guess at least a 3 - 4 year purchase is contemplated. This is good news for the Navy, IMHO, because the Super Hornet has just been a great a/c for the Navy in most every respect.
 
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Per the current issue of AW&ST magazine, congress will purchase 18 (instead of scheduled 9) Super Hornets in FY10, 22 EA-18Gs as scheduled and will take up the issue of a multi-year procurement contract for FY11 to FY14. It seems about 60 to 100 more E/Fs would be involved - all subject to getting an attractive, fixed price from Boeing for the lot of them. FWIW.
 
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hornsfan said:
Some more info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/09/business/09boeing.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

Sounds like Boeing is lobbying hard to extend the C-17 and Super Hornet production lines as there other businesses are getting hit hard.
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This is JMHO, but I think the F-14D made a great AA fighter even greater by adding ~ 10,000lbs of thrust & a very good Air-to-Mud weapons package. But the Navy never exploited the greatness of the F-14D - I think we never had more than ~ 90 of them.
The F-18A-Ds are, IMHO, very limited in range & payload. They weren't the best pluggers in the fleet for nothin'. The F-18E/F adds lotsa new power & about 30% more range - which takes the a/c from marginal to O/S in most mission areas. With the AESA radars & even mo' power coming, these planes will only get better. We can operate the Super Hornets till everything is UAVs as far as I'm concerned.
 
Clux4

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The Marine Corps should really give this F-35 solo thing a second look. I am not convinced the Marine Corps will get all the JSF's it wants.
 
Fog

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They can't really afford them, and (gulp) they'll likely crash about half in training accidents. They really ought to halve their F-35 planned buy and get all the Super Hornets congress will pay for - and sh%t can all their old A thru D models.
 
Clux4

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You know, Marine Corps has to justify its existence and this F-35 concept is just way to emphasize its core competency. So by all means.....it only took the Osprey 20 years or so.
Unfortunately, the USMC will not get a pass if the JSF starts going down the road the Harriers went.
 
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Fog

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Flash said:
That one is going to be hard sell, more have been bought than the USAF asked for and Secretary Gates has taken a dim view to shenanigans like that, though Congress usually has the last word.
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IMHO, the AF can take all the C-17s the congress will buy and use them well to replace the oldest C-5As in their inventory. The C-5 program, to many observers, has been one of the most inefficient/ineffective in defense spending history. I realize only the C-5 can haul some of the Army's biggest gear, but it's still a crappy airplane.
 
jarhead

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if I were in charge...

- buy enough F/A-18F's to fill either MAG 11 or 31 (rock paper scissors to see who gets it)... maintenance is at one base, the F/A-18F can goto the boat to continue "tac-air integration", and the Corps still "owns" FAC-A.

- as legacy Hornets are replaced with "F's", consolidate the low time F/A-18A+/C/D's to the legacy Hornet MAG ... maintenance is at one base, the lower time jets should be a bit easier to maintain thus pilots are flying & the maintainers aren't working their ass off.

- send the rest of the legacy Hornets (the high time & trapped out F/A-18 A+/C/D's) to the boneyard ... you can never have enough spare parts these days.

- as the F-35B comes online, replace the Harriers & the legacy Hornet MAG with them first, and the SH MAG gets their F-35B's last (or F-35C's to keep the tac-air integration option if the Navy doesn't want to play with the F-35B)

SF

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They can't really afford them, and (gulp) they'll likely crash about half in training accidents. They really ought to halve their F-35 planned buy and get all the Super Hornets congress will pay for - and sh%t can all their old A thru D models.
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yodaears

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jarhead said:
if I were in charge...

- buy enough F/A-18F's to fill either MAG 11 or 31 (rock paper scissors to see who gets it)... maintenance is at one base, the F/A-18F can goto the boat to continue "tac-air integration", and the Corps still "owns" FAC-A.

- as legacy Hornets are replaced with "F's", consolidate the low time F/A-18A+/C/D's to the legacy Hornet MAG ... maintenance is at one base, the lower time jets should be a bit easier to maintain thus pilots are flying & the maintainers aren't working their ass off.

- send the rest of the legacy Hornets (the high time & trapped out F/A-18 A+/C/D's) to the boneyard ... you can never have enough spare parts these days.

- as the F-35B comes online, replace the Harriers & the legacy Hornet MAG with them first, and the SH MAG gets their F-35B's last (or F-35C's to keep the tac-air integration option if the Navy doesn't want to play with the F-35B)

SF
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I like it.
 
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