my situation..need some opinions?

[justfly]

I have a few questions regarding BDCP and NROTC. I appologize if some of these topics have been covered, I am bran new to this forumn (btw it seems to be a great source of imformation and I thank everyone in advance who will help me out. Its greatly appreciated.)

Anyways I am going into my sophomore year at ERAU have a 3.2GPA (aeronautical science major). I am currently working on my commercial rating. At the start of the year I enrolled into AFROTC but then dropped out because the Navy sounded better. I was planning on doing NROTC but I was told I would have to sign a contract less than a year from now that will make me enlist at the very least. BDCP sounds like the best bet for me right now, but I'm not sure how I stand. Also take note..I am horrible at math. I am taking a *BASIC* algebra class in college. As far as extra-cur. activities are concerned..I dont really have any. My question is...If you were me, would you do NROTC or BDCP? I dont like the idea of briefly getting a taste of the Navy then signing papers saying I have to enlist if I dont commission. I know I dont sound very competitive for BDCP but with an alright gpa (in a non-tech degree) and about 300 flight hours plus I am going to try doing some volunteering..do you think I even stand a chance while considering I dropped out of AFROTC (i know it might not look very good) horrible at math, and no X.C. activities.

Sorry this is prob a tough question to answer..I said a lot but any help will be appreciated!

 

[jollygreen07]

I know where you are coming from as far as being terrible at math. I was in much the same situation going into my sophomore year. If you get involved in the NROTC program as a college program midshipman, you will better your chances of getting a 2 year scholarship. That being said, I don't know anything about the BDCP program. I am sure that if you use the SEARCH FUNCTION you will find volumnous amounts of information about both programs.

 

[Edgy]

The math isn't much harder than basic algerbra. I think if you are taking that now you would be at an advantage over someone who had an algerbra class 5 years ago.

 

[SH-60OB]

The math isn't much harder than basic algerbra. I think if you are taking that now you would be at an advantage over someone who had an algerbra class 5 years ago.

Obviously good at math.... can't spell algebra

 

[ea6bflyr]

I was planning on doing NROTC but I was told I would have to sign a contract less than a year from now that will make me enlist at the very least.

The Navy is a volunteer force. They cannot make you join the Navy....but they can make you pay back the money they paid for your education. Some folks that fail out OPT to enlist to pay back the money...others just pay back the money.....Just know that you have options.

BDCP sounds like the best bet for me right now, but I'm not sure how I stand. Also take note..I am horrible at math. I am taking a *BASIC* algebra class in college.

NROTC requires you to take CALCULUS and CALCULUS-Based PHYSICS! BDCP does not have this requirement. Sounds to me that BDCP may be a better option for you.

-ea6bflyr

 

[Edgy]

Obviously good at math.... can't spell algebra

Yeah. You're right. Guess Calculus 2 doesn't amount to much...and spelling has everything to do with math.

 

[Kickflip89]

Yeah. You're right. Guess Calculus 2 doesn't amount to much...and spelling has everything to do with math.

We've got a feisty one!

 

[SH-60OB]

Subtlety is wasted on the young. Should have just told him to pull his head out and do a spell check.

 

[stew47]

If you don't want to do NROTC because you are required to take Calculus type courses, think again. Tutoring always helps, plus the majority of majors require a calculus class anyways. When I took Cal my freshman year, my first test was a 60, then I started paying for tutoring and never made lower than an 80 on the rest of the tests.

 

[ea6bflyr]

If you don't want to do NROTC because you are required to take Calculus type courses, think again. Tutoring always helps, plus the majority of majors require a calculus class anyways. When I took Cal my freshman year, my first test was a 60, then I started paying for tutoring and never made lower than an 80 on the rest of the tests.

Understood, but him going NROTC into his Sophomore year, he won't be competive for a scholarship unless he completes at least BOTH CALC class with a B grade or better prior to the end of his SOPH year. The PHYSICS requirement must be met by the end of his JR year.

Another option is to apply to the stand alone 2 year NROTC scholarship...which would start your JR year and require you to attend Naval Science Institute (NSI) during the summer. You cannot participate in the NROTC prior to starting the stand alone 2 year scholarship. I don't think there is a CALC/PHYS requirement either for the stand alone 2 year scholarship.

My advice would be to stop into your local NROTC and speak with the recruiting officer to discuss the finer points of either joining NROTC while competing for a scholarship OR applying for the 2 year scholarship. Again, lots of options. Lots of different rules:

* BCDP = No uniform, E-5 Pay & OCS
* 2-Year Stand alone Scholarship = NSI, full scholarship plus monthly Stipend, and NO OCS
* NROTC = CALC/PHYS, full scholarship plus monthly Stipend, and NO OCS.

-ea6bflyr

 

[gtg941f]

The Navy is a volunteer force. They cannot make you join the Navy....but they can make you pay back the money they paid for your education. Some folks that fail out OPT to enlist to pay back the money...others just pay back the money.....Just know that you have options.



NROTC requires you to take CALCULUS and CALCULUS-Based PHYSICS! BDCP does not have this requirement. Sounds to me that BDCP may be a better option for you.

-ea6bflyr

Not 100% sure but when I got into BDCP 2 years ago, these two classes were actually a requirement. In spending time with my recruiter, whenever a student would come in, if he/she didn't have these my recruiter wouldn't even start the process of applying/taking the ASTB.

 

[ea6bflyr]

Not 100% sure but when I got into BDCP 2 years ago, these two classes were actually a requirement. In spending time with my recruiter, whenever a student would come in, if he/she didn't have these my recruiter wouldn't even start the process of applying/taking the ASTB.

That's not what this says: http://www.units.muohio.edu/sfa/navy.htm
or this: http://www.vajoe.com/gibill/navy/bdcp.html
or this: http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/noru/orojt/generalofficer.htm#1

This may have been more of a desire then required. Do you have any directives that back up your claim?

-ea6bflyr

 

[gtg941f]

That's not what this says: http://www.units.muohio.edu/sfa/navy.htm
or this: http://www.vajoe.com/gibill/navy/bdcp.html
or this: http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/noru/orojt/generalofficer.htm#1

This may have been more of a desire then required. Do you have any directives that back up your claim?

-ea6bflyr

Absolutely not

Just a crappy observation, that's all. I assume it was all preference and that he didn't really want to assemble packages unless they were almost guaranteed.

 

[WishICouldFly]

* BCDP = No uniform, E-5 Pay & OCS
* 2-Year Stand alone Scholarship = NSI, full scholarship plus monthly Stipend, and NO OCS

* NROTC = CALC/PHYS, full scholarship plus monthly Stipend, and NO OCS.

BDCP is E-3 Pay unless you refer two people into the program (and they successfully Final Select) OR make the Dean's List at your university 2 semesters in a row. Each of those will get you E-4, both will get you E-5.

Keep in mind that you are also ACTIVE DUTY enlisted in BDCP, so that includes all health and dental benefits, plus BAH.
No Drill, no training, no haircuts, just gotta keep talking to your recruiter.

Don't know about NROTC, but BDCP locks you into a community before you sign yourself into anything.

Calculus-based Physics and Calculus are NOT required for BDCP in general, only certain communities (IW, maybe CEC, NUPOC...)

 

[Kycntryboy]

I dont like the idea of briefly getting a taste of the Navy then signing papers saying I have to enlist if I dont commission. ................do you think I even stand a chance while considering I dropped out of AFROTC (i know it might not look very good) horrible at math, and no X.C. activities.

I'm not sure your going to like BDCP because you sign, before you get any taste of what the Navy is about, and if you don't commission you go to Great Lakes (Not sure if your refering to ROTC, BDCP, or both.

I've heard of people get picked up for BDCP after dropping out of NROTC, I don't really think its that big of an issue. You might have to explain why you dropped the AF... sts. lol.