navadmin message-brown boots?

[m015784]

hey guys,

i'm trying to find a copy of a navadmin message or reg rumored to authorize the Belleville 330ST brown flight boots for wear. some confusion among a few of us we're trying to sort out. any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

 

[bch]

hey guys,

i'm trying to find a copy of a navadmin message or reg rumored to authorize the Belleville 330ST brown flight boots for wear. some confusion among a few of us we're trying to sort out. any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

If you are not a winged aviator.... don't be that guy.

If you are, then I can't help.

 

[Gatordev]

I'll see if I can track it down for you. I have a copy of it on my Outlook at work. The boots are very nice. Took less than a day to break in. I was wearing a pair of the Red Wing boots until the Safety Gastapo showed up. Also, despite what their website says, I'd recommend you order the same size as what you wear in a military boot. Even then, I (and others) had to put an insert in to make it "just right."

 

[m015784]

gatordev,

thanks man...i'm currently on westpac deployment and the question came up a few days ago...i'd appreciate anything you've got.

thanks

 

[ben]

does this help?

The Belleville website lists the 330 ST as "USN Flight Approved." Obviously not the navadmin message you're looking for, but it might help. Not that I actually know anything about it - I'm not even at OCS yet.

http://www.lawboot.com/law_5.htm#16

 

[Gatordev]

Stupid Internet... Here's the text of the message. If nothing else, at least it'll give you the DTG.

You're surfing the net while on a Westpac? Man, you suck.

ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE

ROUTINE

R 180119Z JUL 03 ZYB PSN 808778E38

FM COMNAVAIRPAC SAN DIEGO CA//N421I//

TO AIG 428

UNCLAS //N13500//

MSGID/GENADMIN/CNAP N421I//

SUBJ/ASA 03-10 AUTH AND OPEN PURCHASE INFO FOR DESERT TAN AND BROWN
/LEATHER FLT BOOTS//

RMKS/
R 161925Z JUL 03 PSN 385851Q30
FM COMNAVAIRSYSCOM PATUXENT RIVER MD
TO AIG 165
AIG 11242
COMNAVAIRLANT NORFOLK VA
COMNAVAIRPAC SAN DIEGO CA
COMNAVAIRES NEW ORLEANS LA
CNATRA CORPUS CHRISTI TX
COMNAVAIRSYSCOM PATUXENT RIVER MD
INFO ZEN/COMNAVAIRSYSCOM PATUXENT RIVER MD
COMNAVAIRWARCENACDIV PATUXENT RIVER MD
CNO WASHINGTON DC
CMC WASHINGTON DC
NAVSURVTRAINST PENSACOLA FL
CG FOURTH MAW
NATTC PENSACOLA FL
UNCLAS

SUBJ: AIRCREW SYSTEMS ADVISORY (03-10) AUTHORIZATION AND OPEN PURCHAS
E INFORMATION FOR THE DESERT TAN FLIGHT BOOT AND BROWN LEATHER
UNCLASSIFIED/
PASS TO OFFICE CODES:
FM COMNAVAIRSYSCOM PATUXENT RIVER MD/PMA202J1/
TO AIG 165
AIG 11242
COMNAVAIRPAC SAN DIEGO CA/N42/N421/N421I/N3/
COMNAVAIRLANT NORFOLK VA/N3/N4/N42/N421/N421A/N453/
COMNAVAIRES NEW ORLEANS LA/N3/N42/N422A5/
CNATRA CORPUS CHRISTI TX/N3/N42/N4214/
COMNAVAIRSYSCOM PATUXENT RIVER MD/5.0/5.0D43/
INFO COMNAVAIRSYSCOM PATUXENT RIVER MD/PMA202/
COMNAVAIRWARCENACDIV PATUXENT RIVER MD/4.6.3.3/
CNO WASHINGTON DC/N780G4/
CMC WASHINGTON DC/SDM-3/
NAVSURVTRAINST PENSACOLA FL/023/
CG FOURTH MAW/FAILSAFE/
NATTC PENSACOLA FL/107/
/N13052/
AIRCREW SYSTEMS ADVISORY (03-10) AUTHORIZATION AND OPEN
PURCHASE INFORMATION FOR THE DESERT TAN FLIGHT BOOT AND BROWN
LEATHER FLIGHT BOOT FOR USE BY NAVY AND MARINE CORPS AIRCREW

MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVAIR PMA202J1/

REF/A/MSG/NAVAIR/121405ZMAY2003/

REF/B/MSG/VAQ 138/030145ZMAR2003/

REF/C/MSG/COMVAQWINGPAC/172249ZMAR2003/

NARR/REF A IS AIRCREW SYSTEMS ADVISORY 03-07 PENDING AVAILABILITY OF
AUTHORIZED OPEN PURCHASE DESERT TAN FLIGHT BOOT. REF B IS AVIATION
HAZREP CITING INADEQUATE TRACTION ON FLIGHT DECK OR AIRCRAFT
SURFACES FOR THE BELLEVILLE 330ST OPTIONAL BROWN FLIGHT BOOT. REF C
IS COMVAQWINGPAC ENDORSEMENT OF VAQ-138 HAZREP 02-03/
POC/JIM KRENEK/CIV/NAWCAD 4.6.3.3/LOCATUXENT RIVER, MD
/TEL:301-342-8831/TELSN 342-8831/EMAIL:KRENEKJE@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL/

RMKS/1. DESERT TAN AND BROWN LEATHER FLIGHT BOOTS THAT MEET SAFETY
STANDARDS FOR USN AND USMC AIRCREW ARE NOW AVAILABLE FOR OPEN
PURCHASE.

2. BACKGROUND: REF A ADVISED THAT THE INTRODUCTION OF THE OPTIONAL
DESERT TAN FLIGHT BOOT WOULD BE DELAYED DUE TO TRACTION CONCERNS
EXPRESSED IN REFS B AND C. REF A FURTHER STATED THAT THE FLEET
WOULD BE INFORMED WHEN THE DESERT TAN AND BROWN LEATHER FLIGHT BOOTS
WERE AVAILABLE VIA OPEN PURCHASE.

3. TWO OPTIONAL BOOTS FOR AIRCREW ARE NOW AUTHORIZED FOR FLIGHT.
THE DESERT TAN FLIGHT BOOT (BELLEVILLE DES ST 330), AND BROWN
LEATHER FLIGHT BOOT (BELLEVILLE 330 ST) WITH STEEL TOES, FLAME
RETARDANT LEATHER OR FABRIC, AND RE-ENGINEERED OUTSOLES ARE NOW
AVAILABLE. BOOTS MAY BE OPEN PURCHASED FROM BELLEVILLE SHOE
MANUFACTURING COMPANY VIA THE WEB AT: HTTPDOUBLE SLASH)
WWW.BELLEVILLESHOE.COM OR BY PHONE: 800-376-6978, FAX: 618-233-5617.
APPROXIMATE PRICE FOR EACH STYLE OF BOOT IS 120 DOLLARS. TURN
AROUND TIMES FOR BOOT ORDERS MAY VARY DEPENDING ON FLEET ORDERS,
HOWEVER FIRST DELIVERIES ARE EXPECTED FOR LATE AUGUST 2003.

4. THIS ACTIVITY DOES NOT ESTABLISH UNIFORM REQUIREMENTS FOR WEAR.
CONTACT YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND FOR GUIDANCE.

5. THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THIS ADVISORY IS MS. KELCY SEABOLT,
301-342-8379, DSN 342-8379 OR EMAIL: SEABOLTKL@NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL.

6. THIS MESSAGE IS THE TENTH IN A SERIES OF AIRCREW SYSTEMS
ADVISORIES RELEASED IN FY03. AIRCREW SYSTEMS ADVISORIES INFORM
FLEET AVIATORS AND AIRCREW SURVIVAL EQUIPMENTMEN (PR)/MOS 6048'S OF
CHANGES WITH FLIGHT EQUIPMENT, PUBLICATIONS AND GENERAL INFORMATION.
PREVIOUS AIRCREW SYSTEMS ADVISORIES CAN BE FOUND ONLINE AT HTTPS:
(DOUBLE SLASH)PMA202.NAVAIR.NAVY.MIL.//