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need some advice

mac1533

Registered User
In august I got a disorderly conduct and my court date is December 5. I thought i was out of the running for the 191 class because fines and everything have to be paid before you can submit your package but a couple days ago my OSO was talking to the Major and he said that it would be possible for me to submit my application with the fine pending. The problem is that I was planning to apply for a pilot slot and my OSO basically said that I have no chance of being selected for a pilot because of the court stuff but a very high chance of being selected as an NFO. I've been searching the internet and the forum looking at NFO threads to learn more about it but I don't know if its what i want to do. Assuming I make past all the training I don't want to regret that I went the NFO route instead of trying to become a pilot. If there are any NFOs out there that could give me more specifics about what you guys do or if anyone would like to just put their two cents in, I would appreciate it.
 

HAL Pilot

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If you want to be a pilot and accept NFO because it is a quicker or easier route to being accepted into OCS you will hate it and have "pilot envy".

If you become a NFO because you know what the job is and want to do the job, you will love it.

I can't comment on being an NFO in the Marines because I was a Navy P-3 NFO. The Marines have no equivalent NFO position.

I never had the option to be a Navy pilot due to my eye sight. I LOVED being a NFO and never gave a rat's ass about not being a Navy pilot. I did, however, want to fly airplanes so I got my civilian licenses through the Navy flying clubs. Even after getting those, I still had no desire to be a Navy pilot because as a P-3 NFO/TACCO, I was the guy who made it happen.

My brother, on the other hand, was originally a pilot select and got the NAMI Whammy at AOCS (not medically qualified for pilot due to eye sight). He liked being a NFO and spent a 20 year career being a damn good P-3 NFO. But he never loved it, always wondered "what if" and regretted not being a pilot.

Since there are no civilian "NFO" flying job equivalents (or at least very few), I have since made the transition to the monkey seat for my second career. I love flying and being in control, but I would not have traded my NFO career away. I'm lucky, I got to have one career as a NFO and now a new career as a pilot.
 

zippy

Freedom!
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In august I got a disorderly conduct and my court date is December 5... The problem is that I was planning to apply for a pilot slot and my OSO basically said that I have no chance of being selected for a pilot because of the court stuff but a very high chance of being selected as an NFO.

That doesn't sound right to me-at all. The court stuff could have bearing on your overall qualifications as an officer, but none for a specific MOS. If i was you, i'd still apply for the pilot slot first- it is possible to get one, even after being in your situation.

If you get the charges dismissed there should be zero bearing at all on any slot you applied for because there was no conviction (and the conviction is what really counts). You might want to get a lawyer and have them bump up your court date to get this thing adjuticated sooner. Disorderly conduct is a relatively minor charge and you might be pretty successful getting it dismissed with the lawyer doing a song and dance about the negative effects such a conviction would have with you application for an officer accession program.
 
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