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New Bin Laden Tape

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pennst8

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041029/D861CS9O0.html

Bin Laden: U.S. Can Avoid Another Attack

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Osama bin Laden, publicly injecting himself into the campaign four days ahead of presidential elections, said in a videotape aired Friday that the United States can avoid another Sept. 11 attack if it stops threatening the security of Muslims.

In the segment broadcast, the al-Qaida leader refrained from directly warning of new attacks, although he said "there are still reasons to repeat what happened."

"Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said, referring to the president and his Democratic opponent. "Any state that does not mess with our security, has naturally guaranteed its own security."

Admitting for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks, bin Laden said he did so because of injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United States.

In what appeared to be conciliatory language, bin Laden said he wanted to explain why he ordered the suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon so Americans would know how to act to prevent another attack.

"To the American people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another Manhattan," he said. "I tell you: Security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security."

After the video was aired, President Bush said that "Americans will not be intimidated" by bin Laden. Democratic challenger John Kerry criticized Bush for failing to capture bin Laden earlier and said that "I can run a more effective war on terror."

It was the first footage in more than a year of the fugitive al-Qaida leader, thought to be hiding in the mountains along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The video, broadcast on Al-Jazeera television, showed bin Laden with a long, gray beard, wearing traditional white robes, a turban and a golden cloak, standing behind a table with papers and in front of a plain, brown curtain.

His hands were steady and he appeared healthy.

The Bush administration said it believes the videotape, which carries English subtitles, is authentic and was made recently. A U.S. official noted that bin Laden mentions that it has been four years since Sept. 11, 2001, and that U.S. casualities in Iraq have reached 1,000. That death toll was reached in early September.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said the administration did not plan to raise the nation's threat level for now. The U.S. official said the 18-minute tape lacks an explicit threat and repeats well-worn themes.

Al-Jazeera broadcast about seven minutes of the tape. The station's spokesman, Jihad Ali Ballout, said they aired what was "newsworthy and relevant" and refused to describe the unaired portions, including whether they included any threats.

Before the tape was aired, the State Department urged the government of Qatar, which finances Al-Jazeera, not to broadcast it, a senior State Department official said.

The U.S. reasoning was that the satellite television network should not give a platform to someone who runs terrorist operations and promotes terrorist activites against innocent people, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

There was no way to determine exactly when the tape was made - but it offered evidence that bin Laden was alive and following events. Kerry emerged as the Democratic candidate in the spring.

Bin Laden accused Bush of misleading Americans by saying the attack was carried out because al-Qaida "hates freedom." The terrorist leader said his followers have left alone countries that do not threaten Muslims.

"We fought you because we are free ... and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours," bin Laden said.

He said he was first inspired to attack the United States by the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon in which towers and buildings in Beirut were destroyed in the siege of the capital.

"While I was looking at these destroyed towers in Lebanon, it sparked in my mind that the tyrant should be punished with the same and that we should destroy towers in America, so that it tastes what we taste and would be deterred from killing our children and women," he said.

"God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind," he said.

Bin Laden suggested Bush was slow to react to the Sept. 11 attacks, giving the hijackers more time than they expected. At the time of the attacks, the president was listening to schoolchildren in Florida reading a book.

"It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would leave 50,000 of his citizens in the two towers to face these horrors alone," he said, referring to the number of people who worked at the World Trade Center.

"It appeared to him (Bush) that a little girl's talk about her goat and its butting was more important than the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers. That gave us three times the required time to carry out the operations, thank God," he said.

Excluding the hijackers, the Sept. 11 attacks killed 2,749 people at the World Trade Center, 184 at the Pentagon and 40 in Pennsylvania.

In planning the attacks, bin Laden said he told Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers, that the strikes had to be carried out "within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration noticed."

Bin Laden also said the Bush administration was like repressive Arab regimes "in that half of them are ruled by the military and the other half are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents."

He said the resemblance became clear when Bush's father was president and visited Arab countries.

"He wound up being impressed by the royal and military regimes and envied them for staying decades in their positions and embezzling the nation's money with no supervision," bin Laden said.

"He passed on tyranny and oppression to his son, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the pretext of fighting terror. Bush the father did well in placing his sons as governors and did not forget to pass on the expertise in fraud from the leaders of the (Mideast) region to Florida to use it in critical moments."

The image of bin Laden reading a statement was dramatically different from the few other videos of the al-Qaida leader that have emerged since the Sept. 11 attacks.

In the last videotape, issued Sept. 10, 2003, bin Laden is seen walking through rocky terrain with his top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, both carrying automatic rifles. In a taped message issued at the same time, bin Laden praises the "great damage to the enemy" on Sept. 11 and mentions five hijackers by name.

In December 2001, the Pentagon released a videotape in which bin Laden is shown at a dinner with associates in Afghanistan on Nov. 9, 2001, saying the destruction of the Sept. 11 attacks exceeded even his "optimistic" calculations.

But in none of his previous messages, audio or video, did bin Laden directly state that he ordered the attacks.

U.S. authorities have long said they believe bin Laden is hiding in a rugged, mountainous tribal region of Pakistan that borders Afghanistan, but there has been no firm evidence of his whereabouts for three years.

The last audiotape purportedly from bin Laden came in April. The speaker on the tape, which CIA analysts said likely was the al-Qaida leader, offered a truce to European nations if they pull troops out of Muslim countries. The tape referred to the March 22 assassination by Israel of Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin.

Al-Zawahri, bin Laden's Egyptian deputy, has spoken on three recent audiotapes that emerged on June 11, Sept. 9 and Oct. 1 this year. In the latest, he called on young Muslims to strike the United States and its allies.

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Associated Press writer Katherine Pfleger Shrader in Washington contributed to this report.

MORE:

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...4645_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-SECURITY-BINLADEN-DC.html
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
 

pennst8

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I'm really disappointed we haven't shut him up yet... if there is anyone out there that deserves to eat a bullet, its Osama Bin Laden.

I don't care who does it, it just needs to happen.
 

VetteMuscle427

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I concur. You think we'd have been able to bribe someone at Al-Jazeera and roll our way back up the line to him.
 

Fly Navy

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But would you pull the trigger yourself? ;) And I don't mean dropping a bomb.
 

Jolly Roger

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Fly Navy said:
But would you pull the trigger yourself? ;) And I don't mean dropping a bomb.

Nope, I'd send his ass away to have much info squeezed from him as possible, then we'll talk about pulling the trigger.

I think the rest of his natural life spent in Gitmo, being forced to listen to Barbara Stiesand and Kenny G cds 24/7/365 sounds appriate, after the first week he'll be begging for a bullet. :D
 

manny7_99

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true

Jolly Roger said:
I think the rest of his natural life spent in Gitmo, being forced to listen to Barbara Stiesand and Kenny G cds 24/7/365 sounds appriate, after the first week he'll be begging for a bullet. :D


Lol, funny. However, reserving the right to be politically incorrect...I can't wait to kill the F u c K @r!!!

Gosh, I wish I was "hunting" right now. :icon_rage

Soon people, soon. :icon_wink
 

bmcnamara

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Interesting how he accuses President Bush of reacting too slow and accuses him of acting like repressive regimes in Arab countries. I for one could definitely pull the trigger (although, i want him to have a slow and very excrutiatinly painful death) on bin Laden, but as someone else said after we beat as much information out of him as possible. While we're at it, a little sabotage to shut al jazeera down would be nice. These terrorists don't know what freedom is, the oppression of their people rivals that of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler to name a few.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
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I have a couple thoughts as to the meaning and purpose of this video.

First of all, I think that if Al-Jazeera cannot be used to find Osama's whereabouts, it should be bombed. This is an organization that supports and broadcasts the messages of terrorists to the middle-east and the united states. Sleeper cells, as well as active cells thoughout the world, are motivated and supported by such videos. Al Jazeera is hiding certain parts of the videos, which are most likely fundamental to our war on terror, or the defense of our nation. And, Jazeera is not disclosing ANY information as to the location where they obtained these videos. In my personal opinion, this warrents the business end of a 2000lb bomb.

Second of all, this video made me feel good. Osama was without a doubt trying to interfere with our elections. The best way to inferfere with anything, including elections, are with a terrorist strike. In my opinion, the video was released because he is uncapable of striking at the moment. This was all he could do to interfere with anything; produce a video. This comforts me because it means that our homeland security, president, intelligence community, and military, are all succeeding in their measures to protect this nation. Sounds like good news to me.
 

akamifeldman

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...but hasn't yet succeded in 'smoking out' and catching Bin Laden, "dead or alive." The fact that this fvcker has escaped all attempts to catch him and is still out making tapes and plotting against us ain't what I'd call good news.
 

Fly Navy

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akamifeldman said:
...but hasn't yet succeded in 'smoking out' and catching Bin Laden, "dead or alive." The fact that this fvcker has escaped all attempts to catch him and is still out making tapes and plotting against us ain't what I'd call good news.

Same ****, different day. For 12+ years now. (refering to Bin Laden being uncaptured).
 

VarmintShooter

Bottom of the barrel
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Godspeed said:
... This comforts me because it means that our homeland security, president, intelligence community, and military, are all succeeding in their measures to protect this nation. Sounds like good news to me.

Agreed ...
 

Kycntryboy

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pilot
akamifeldman said:
...but hasn't yet succeded in 'smoking out' and catching Bin Laden, "dead or alive." The fact that this fvcker has escaped all attempts to catch him and is still out making tapes and plotting against us ain't what I'd call good news.

I agree, this dick is THE central figure in al-Qaida, and everyday that he is able to breathe and escape our grasp just gives cells hope. We need to cut of the head.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
I completely agree that the fact he is still out there is bad news. I am happy because our nations defenses are clearly working. I said nothing of our offenses.
I don't think that bush has "avoided" capturing Bin Laden. If we caught bin laden, bush would be receiving a one way guaranteed ticket to the white house in a few days, which he definitely wants. We all know that a politician's motives are based on getting re-elected. You know this, and I know this. To imply that bush doesn't want to catch Bin Laden is simply ignorant in my opinion, but perhaps I am interpreting you the wrong way.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
Patmack18 said:
"Bin Laden is prepared to die. His soul is ready for it, he's not scared. Better yet we need to throw Bin Laden in jail, because I guarantee you his sould isn't prepared to lick jelly out of thunderd!ck's a$$hole"


I agree. We need to put that guy away in Attica and pay some 400lb serial rapist to make a playground out of his a$$. -and then kill him :D
 

Birdog8585

Milk and Honey
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Alright listen, first off my position is that he should have his beard smeared with fresh raw steak juice and then have an AMERICAN BALD EAGLE stand over him with its talons securely dug into his face while he muches away on his gay ass chin-mop; that way it will hurt like hell, remove his beard and make him understand that our friendly eagle lives by the same ideal that we do, FREEDOM!!

Now as for catching him, yeah I def think that we need to catch him - as does everyone I hope. I think that the way we are going about it is just fine. I dont know the details of how we are going about it and neither does anyone else. Dont listen to, "I heard on the news that they said this and they said that"; the only people that really know what is going on are in DC and in Afganistan (and maybie some other Crypto and Intel guys spread around the world). So that means that nobody knows what we have or have not done in the past to catch him. The point is we are trying to catch him we are prob on his coat-tails and if you wanna think outside the box a little we could be using him to get all these other guys that have been brought down over the last few years. Ever think of that? I say we be more optimistic and give the Gov a little more credit and trust than we currently do. Lots of stuff goes on behind the scenes that we dont know about and we dont want or need to know about either (OPSEC). Anyway enough ranting. My intension is not to call anyone out here or personally attack them, im just throwin my two bits.
 
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