hey yall im new here but ive always wanted to fly for the military. im familar with the plc program but i am graduating in december and i was wondering if you can get a guarantee air option through ocs? also ill graduate with about a 2.9 in political science and i have a commercial pilots license with about 300 hours in several aircraft. would i be competetive? thanks a bunch
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makoslim
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if you are graduating next month, you can't do PLC, you can however do OCC (one ten week stint) you apply for one of four contracts that guarantee you an opportunity in that field. 1) Ground, 2) Air 3) NFO, and 4) JAG. you are guaranteed a spot at flight school if you are accepted on an air contract, whether or not you actually get to fly is up to you in flight school. It's impossible to say whether you are competitive , and we can't really give you an idea (compared to our stats) unless you give us more than your GPA and degree. The board looks at your physical shape, PFT scores, reffernces, tattoos, drug usage, debt, tickets, blah, blah, blah, etc... it really is all up to the board, but we can tell you if there is anything you need to work on to better your chances.
cool thanks for some reason i thought if you do occ you arent guaranteed anything. well other than the other stuff i listed, i was captain of the high school hockey team for 3 years. played 2 year of hockey in college. work out 5 times a week in good shape. no tatoos, 1 speeding ticket, worked several jobs during school and summer. i dont know what all they look at but i have a clean record. is there anything else they consider?
SNA contracts and (S)NFO contracts are separate - you're either one or the other (unless, of course, you're ground or law). An air contract (SNA or NFO) guarantees that if you finish OCS, you go to TBS; if (read: when) you finish TBS, you go to API - that's it.
As far as credentials go ecugringo, they consider everything, as the Marine Corps wants well-rounded officers. Definitely get a high PFT score (first class is the minimum but probably wouldn't be good enough) and get good letters of recommendation. LORs from ex-military, business executives, community leaders, politicians are typically the best, but only get LORs from people who actually know you well - no friends or relatives. Talk to an Officer Selection Officer (OSO)!
As far as credentials go ecugringo, they consider everything, as the Marine Corps wants well-rounded officers. Definitely get a high PFT score (first class is the minimum but probably wouldn't be good enough) and get good letters of recommendation. LORs from ex-military, business executives, community leaders, politicians are typically the best, but only get LORs from people who actually know you well - no friends or relatives. Talk to an Officer Selection Officer (OSO)!
makoslim
Air candidate 188
sorry if I didnt clarify that enough, as long as you get through OCS and TBS, you go to flight school, what I meant by it depends on you here is this: If you can't fly for $hit, you wont be a pilot, if you can't pass the aviation swim test, you wont be a pilot, if they find a taliban terrorist manual in your possesion, you wont be a pilot (or a free man for that sake). Did that clear it up?
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I just realized how poorly worded my response was. There are pilot (SNA) contracts and NFO contracts. There are no "air" contracts under which you are either an SNA or NFO. In general, "air contract" refers to a pilot contract, not an NFO contract. Sorry if there was any confusion.
Shadow9660
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Also, whether or not you qualify for SNA or NFO depends on your score on the ASTB.... you need a minimum of 4/6/6 for marines 3/4/4 navy ...the second number being your pilot rating, and the third number the nfo rating...so depending on how you score...you could go from there.
Broadsword2004
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What is the "aviation swim test?"
Cuz if I get thrown into the water, I won't drown, but I can't swim for crap right now. I am just dead slow.
Cuz if I get thrown into the water, I won't drown, but I can't swim for crap right now. I am just dead slow.
makoslim
Air candidate 188
Broadsword2004 said:
Tower jump, freestyle, back stroke, side stroke, (breast stroke?), and a one mile endurance swim in flight gear (minus helmut and boots). I suggest you start swimming now, you can't even get to flight school with out a top rating (s-1 or something like that) on the swim tests at TBS. That includes a bunch of tasks such as treading water with a 5 pound weight held out of the water for 5 minutes, swimming with a drowning victim in several different positions. A bunch of strokes. I know there is more, but can't think of any of it right now, just ask your OSO, he had to do them at TBS (if he is infantry, there is a chance he didn't have to do all of them because they aren't required to get the top grade (but I think a lot of them do anyway).
Paragraph 4.d talks about people in a flight status, paragraph 6 details the requirements for each level of qualification. You start at CWS4 and work up to CWS1 then CWSQ. Anything beyond that (CWSS, MCIWS, MCITWS) requires a formal training course. CWS4 through CWSQ are the "standard" qualifications and can be done by an instructor at a pool in a day.
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