Oil spill consequences

[Steve Wilkins]

Anybody hear anything about this up there in the Pensacola area? What's the word on the street up there regarding this spill?

Plans are being put in place for the mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Mandeville, Hammond, Houma, Belle Chase, Chalmette, Slidell, Biloxi, Gulfport, Pensacola, Hattiesburg, Mobile Bay, Minette, Fort Walton Beach, Panama City, Crestview, and Pascagoula.

From: Government Insiders: Get Ready for the Gulf "Dead Zone"

 

[usmarinemike]

There's nothing as serious as this knocking about here right now.

Dead zone in the ocean? Completely plausible. It was already there from industrial and agricultural runoff from the midwest.

Corexit winter for the next 50 years on the gulf coast? I knew that shit was bad from minute one. Not holding my breath quite yet, though. Still frightening as hell though. Glad I'm leaving here soon. Even more glad that I don't own property here.

 

[insanebikerboy]

I'd say it's like anything else, plan for the worst and hope for the best. Although, if this were true I'd be curious to see how the area would be policed, with that large of an area being mentioned looters and criminals would have an absolute field day with the empty houses/businesses/etc.

 

[Jim123]

All the local news I've seen suggests that the cleanup circus is holding the line against the slick. Some stretches of coastline are better than others, and it is increasingly being accepted that there is a massive dead zone out in the gulf, but widespread FEMA evacuation?? That'd be news to me.

No shortage of stories about dead fish, dead birds, the sharks concentrating in shallower water (because they are following their food there). Last week a fishing charter captain in Foley, AL shot himself. The guy's whole existence was about taking tourists out to catch fish and that way of life is gone from this area probably for years to come.

 

[JonDW7]

I have heard that FEMA has an evacuation plan in place, and that the air toxicity will dictate if the plan ever actually must be executed. There is also a plan in place for a mass HUREVAC, which may be the same plan. I am not sure.

I think a HUREVAC is more likely than an evacuation due to air toxicity. I really think that "they" will pull the trigger this year for a HUREVAC much sooner due to the threat of an oily storm surge.

 

[nittany03]

Guys . . . seriously?



Sorry, but that is probably the most ridiculous-sounding thing I've read all week. If I hear it from a reputable news organization, I'll believe it.

 

[Brunes]

There are a lot of Evac plans for this area of the country. Contraflow being the most pervasive...Localized plans exist in nearly every town/county/parish/unincorp area.

Haven't heard word one about evacs fur to oil or air toxicity. I kinda doubt anything will come of that alone. Now Tropical Storm Alex.....Eff that dood.

 

[boobcheese]

The possibility of an on-land "dead zone" is only likely in the sense that this may well prove the death nail for some local economies that were already struggling with the combined effects of a lagging economy and the aftermath of Katrina, Dennis, et al. While I'm sure that various government agencies have all sorts of contingency plans drawn up to to deal with a myriad of possible scenarios (up to and including including alien invasions), if something like this were being put into motion there's no way it stays quiet for more than 24hrs. Its not like local officials are giving big gov't or BP a pass on any shenanigans. That being said, this is a catastrophe/fuck-up of epic proportions that will have lingering effects at sea and on land for probably decades to come.

 

[A4sForever]

That being said, this is a catastrophe/fuck-up of epic proportions that will have lingering effects at sea and on land for probably decades to come.

You ARE talking about Washington, D.C. ... yea-as ???

 

[boobcheese]

You ARE talking about Washington, D.C. ... yea-as ???

From the catastrophe/fuck-up standpoint I'm talking about all involved. From the lack of gov't oversight to the reckless abandon of those making decisions at BP for sake of $$$/expediency. As for the lingering effects, I was actually referring to those in the gulf that are being directly affected. However, I'm sure there will be long term political implications as well.

 

[CommodoreMid]

Politically, the thing that's pissing me off about this whole fuck up is the renewed opposition to drilling for oil in the Gulf. IMHO, that's like saying we shouldn't continue to use nuclear power because of Chernobyl. Yes, both the oil companies and the government have to do a major overhaul on methods, practices, safeguards, regulations, etc, as a result of this, but to call for no more drilling is just retarded from a long term energy supply perspective.

 

[Steve Wilkins]

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Sorry, but that is probably the most ridiculous-sounding thing I've read all week. If I hear it from a reputable news organization, I'll believe it.

Are any of these reputable?

 

[A4sForever]

From the catastrophe/fuck-up standpoint I'm talking about all involved. ...

I still think you meant 'D.C.' ... perhaps w/out even realizing it. :icon_wink

This monstrosity was conceived, given birth, nurtured, brought to fruition, and is now being mismanaged at every opportunity in the Hall$ of Congre$$ w/ their co-conspirators in the guise of various & sundry environmental interests (always, always, always -- hate drilling) and the attendant, do-nothing bureaucraciez-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-zzzzz :sleep_125:sleep_125 (sic) ... 'cept, of course -- when the bureaucrats are 'awake & watchin' taxpayer-sponsored porn on their computers. :icon_smil

Yeah ... I think we've got it 'right' ...

 

[Steve Wilkins]

The Escambia County Health Department is issuing a health advisory from the Pensacola Beach Fishing Pier west to the Pensacola Pass, including Ft. Pickens.

http://www.dep.state.fl.us/deepwaterhorizon/files/sit_reports/0610/situation_report62_062910.pdf

So far, looks like a little over 1.5MM gallons of dispersant has been used.

 

[nittany03]

Are any of these reputable?

Given that it starts out with a news clip and then segues into borderline paranoid hysteria, umm . . . I'm saying no. Spraying chemicals from private aircraft "under cover of night?" The ever-popular scary "black vehicles?" Come on. Once whoever posted that on YouTube gets done with the spill, maybe they can help getting that evil fluoridation out of the water system. I hear it messes with your precious bodily fluids.

It's not like crude oil is the most healthy substance known to mankind anyway; of course you're going to put a health hazard warning out when various organic hydrocarbons start washing up on shore. Benzene, pyridine, and all that crap is already toxic anyway.