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Osprey making progress

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46Driver

"It's a mother beautiful bridge, and it's gon
Saw this on www.aviationnow.com

Lean Manufacturing To Cut V-22 Cost, Bell Says
By Lisa Troshinsky
10/06/2004 08:33:37 AM


The cost of Bell Helicopter Textron's V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft will drop from its current price of about $70 million to about $50 million within the next five years because of lean manufacturing, according to the head of Osprey program partner Bell Helicopter.

The V-22 currently costs $73 million per aircraft. The Navy's target cost for the aircraft is $58 million by fiscal 2010, a Naval Air Systems Command representative told The DAILY.

The V-22 is in the early stages of production - Boeing and Bell Helicopter are producing 18 aircraft a year and likely will move into full-rate production in 2005, Bell Helicopter CEO Michael Redenbaugh said in a meeting last week with editors from The DAILY and Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine. At that time, the company will have to double the production rate, he said.

"Though Bell Helicopter is number one in vertical lift aircraft, it is fifth in revenues because of the transition time it takes to go into full-rate production," Redenbaugh said.

To date, the V-22's cycle time - the time it takes for it to move through the Bell facility near Dallas, Texas - has been reduced by 70-90 percent, and the company has reduced by 37 percent the time it takes to assemble the aircraft, Dwayne Dehaven, vice president of Textron Six Sigma with parent company Textron, told The DAILY.

The "first-time yield" - the percentage of the time the company builds an aircraft without having to redo manufacturing processes - "has been 100 percent over the last year, due to shortening manufacturing steps and linking those steps closer together to improve visibility and communication," he said. "In the past, a major V-22 component would go across several machine tools and traverse miles in my machine center. Moving all the equipment into a located cell reduces time and travel distance."

Redenbaugh said that "under previous factory alignment, it took Bell workers 180 days to make V-22 prop-rotor gearboxes, a process that included moving the component dozens of times over thousands of feet to different stations within the factory. Under the new system, gearboxes are being turned out in 45 days and make only a few moves, covering less than 1,000 feet from start to finish."

Bell also reduced the time it takes to get the paperwork on each aircraft ready for the government from 13 hours to 2.5 hours, Dehaven said.
 

towbubba

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So let me get this straight. They sped up the production line and are making it cheaper? Anybody else see a potential for disaster. Doesn't matter anyway Kerry will vote against it or veto it depending on his billet after Nov 2.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
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Speeding up production lines generally makes things cheaper, based on economies of scale. That's true of anything from aircraft to toaster ovens.

There may still be a chance the Osprey won't make it, but it won't be because Congress doesn't like it. Congress loves big projects built in several different states. Now, if we have a President Kerry, I fear for a lot more than just a couple weapons systems.
 

petescheu

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How much you wanna bet when the Osprey was first proposed, the defense contractors said it would cost half as much per copy as it costs now. These things always have a way of skyrocketing in price. And I'm sure it has plenty to do with congressional porkbarrel BS... Good to hear for once the price is going down though, instead of up.
 

usnmerritt

NSW land
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they've got an operation in Amarillo as well...went through it the other day. they've completely rennovated the facility for this 'cheaper and faster' change. I can't tell anything different but they seem to be doing pretty well. there's a lot more Osprey's flying around too...whipping them out like turds.
 

brd2881

Bon Scott Lives
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Well, Gen. Jumper, the Air Force Chief of Staff is doing his part by piloting the V-22 recently with Air Force Secretary Roche in the jump seat and then Gen. Brown, one of the heads of SOCOM jumped out the back with a few other guys in a HALO jump from 9000 feet. After reading that, I hope it gets cheaper because that pretty much indicates to me that the big wigs have no intention of letting this thing pass by.
 

EODDave

The pastures are greener!
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The Spec Ops guys always wanted it or something like it anyways. It has been a nightmare to develope, but it is a much needed platform.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
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Look, this is a good program. It may not have been in the past, but it is now. For example, it's been shown that the aircraft lands fine in the desert and up high, both areas where the doubting Thomases have always tried to ding the aircraft. Very few of those who take a dump on the Osprey have ever even sat in the cockpit or sim, much less flown it.

Actually, I will say that I've never seen any negative feedback about the aircraft from anyone who's actually flown in it. By "negative," I mean to the extent that he would say it's a bad a/c, not to mean it has a deficiency in a particular area.
 

Red2

E-2 NFO. WTI. DH.
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Anyone know what the training pipeline is going to look like for the Osprey? I checked the old threads and one said modified prop/helo syllabus, but those threads are 3-4 years old. Also, has the Navy decided if they are going to buy Ospreys or is it just going to the Marines and Air Force?
 

phrogdriver

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Still slated for modified prop/helo. I would give particulars, but my T and R manual is in a box somewhere. The Navy is still officially in for the 60s, but still has feelers out for the Osprey. Wouldn't bank on it, though.
 

squeeze

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phrogdriver said:
Look, this is a good program. It may not have been in the past, but it is now. For example, it's been shown that the aircraft lands fine in the desert and up high, both areas where the doubting Thomases have always tried to ding the aircraft. Very few of those who take a dump on the Osprey have ever even sat in the cockpit or sim, much less flown it.

It'll probably wind up with a similar rep to the Harrier. Lots of early teething problems results in a bad rep and a scary nickname regardless of how successfully the program evolves. Tis the nature of the beast.
 
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