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Osprey Question
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towbubba
boot 46 pilot
If I thought I could get the Osprey I would give up my urge to pull the trigger. I heard you can't auto-rotate, sounds like a problem. Anyhow I am very interested but I am just starting RI's in Primary and don't know if I gave the right timing. I would love to be on the cutting edge of Marine Aviation and writting the NATOPS for a new platform. I know a couple other SNA's who share my interest. I have heard so many conflicting reports about the pipeline that I have all but given up on it. Any new word would be appreciated.
46Driver
"It's a mother beautiful bridge, and it's gon
Eventually the plan is to select Ospreys out of Flight School. For the near term future, there will be transition boards to select those from different communities such as all of the helo communites, the C-130 community, Harriers, F/A-18's, and EA-6B's. So yes, there is a chance you could switch over later.
Interesting to note that the Osprey has a fixed wing throttle with a thumbwheel to control the nacelles instead of a collective like helicopters. Originally, it came with a collective (and the Bell 609 still has a collective) but a project manager by the name of General Blott (a Harrier pilot) ordered Bell to take out the collective and put in a throttle so the Osprey program "would attract a better quality of pilot" - needless to say that quote didn't make too many people in the helicopter community happy.... Anyway, if you ever hear of the "blottle" in the Osprey, that is where it came from.
Interesting to note that the Osprey has a fixed wing throttle with a thumbwheel to control the nacelles instead of a collective like helicopters. Originally, it came with a collective (and the Bell 609 still has a collective) but a project manager by the name of General Blott (a Harrier pilot) ordered Bell to take out the collective and put in a throttle so the Osprey program "would attract a better quality of pilot" - needless to say that quote didn't make too many people in the helicopter community happy.... Anyway, if you ever hear of the "blottle" in the Osprey, that is where it came from.
The NATOPS is already written on that bad-boy (although I hears it still needs editing), but the tactics manual is still a work in progress. The next couple years will still be transitions from other platforms. This year there were 16 transitions, of which I believe 13 were helo bubbas.
You do get a new MOS, I've forgotten the number.
Yes, autoing is supposed to be a problem, but think about a couple other things. One, gliding is often better. Have you seen a 46 or 53 do an auto? They come down like a set of car keys. Two, the Osprey will be better able to fly on one engine. A dual engine failure is very rare. Lastly, it is much more crash resistant. Breakaway hoses, blades, sealing fuel tanks, better seats, etc.
You do get a new MOS, I've forgotten the number.
Yes, autoing is supposed to be a problem, but think about a couple other things. One, gliding is often better. Have you seen a 46 or 53 do an auto? They come down like a set of car keys. Two, the Osprey will be better able to fly on one engine. A dual engine failure is very rare. Lastly, it is much more crash resistant. Breakaway hoses, blades, sealing fuel tanks, better seats, etc.
Yes, daily here at Kbay, and every time I see a 53 do that, I wonder if it is for real or not... until they pull out at like 150 feet and basically stand it up on its tail and settle down on the pad. What's up with that? If you did that for real you would knock your tail rotor in first, or is that the purpose?phrogdriver said:
If it ever came to me having to do an auto for real I think I might as well kiss my butt goodbye. Nobody even likes doing practice autos in a 53. I'm not sure about the Deltas, but we try tokeep or flare at the bottom bottom below 30 degrees nose up. Anything higher than that is way too uncomfortable.
Back to the Osprey. "One" Osprey is flying like crazy out here at the river. One thing for sure, that sucker is fast. It takes off like a rocket once it transitions to airplane mode.
As far as conversions, right now they are taking applications from all airframes (including TACAIR). Eventually they will start replacing 46 squadrons with Ospreys.
Q
Back to the Osprey. "One" Osprey is flying like crazy out here at the river. One thing for sure, that sucker is fast. It takes off like a rocket once it transitions to airplane mode.
As far as conversions, right now they are taking applications from all airframes (including TACAIR). Eventually they will start replacing 46 squadrons with Ospreys.
Q
46Driver
"It's a mother beautiful bridge, and it's gon
I have heard from many sources the V-22 is fast out of the zone, is it slow or fast COMING into a zone???
Also saw in the Marine Corps Gazette it looks as if the the current 53E's are not going to be SLEP'ed (Service Life Extension Program) but the Marine Corps is going to buy all new 53X's with uprated engines, avionics, rotor system, and guns (including a machine gun on the ramp to cover the tail.)
Interesting to note that the 53's are adding guns as a result of the recent unpleasantness in Iraq and Afghanistan while the Osprey will be unarmed.....
Also saw in the Marine Corps Gazette it looks as if the the current 53E's are not going to be SLEP'ed (Service Life Extension Program) but the Marine Corps is going to buy all new 53X's with uprated engines, avionics, rotor system, and guns (including a machine gun on the ramp to cover the tail.)
Interesting to note that the 53's are adding guns as a result of the recent unpleasantness in Iraq and Afghanistan while the Osprey will be unarmed.....
It sure looks uncomfortable, here at Kbay, they stand em up on their tail, looks more like 70 degrees or so to me (Gatordev can correct the clueless fixed wing guy on that one).Q-ball said:
Nothing to shoot back with? I would imagine there will be all sorts of inventive infield mods for the first wave into combat.46Driver said:
Yup, we're getting new 53's. They're supposed to have glass cockpits (similar to the new Huey), improved rotor head & blades, and stonger engines. There's actually a push to throw in the Rolls Royce engines that the Osprey uses. It'll jump the SHP fromm 3700 per engine to 6000.
The third .50 cal is already in use. It's a mount that we can attach directly to our ramp. We also have improved .50 cals.
From my observation, it looks like the Osprey is fairly slow on final into a zone. In my opinion, the 46 is much faster in that department. Coming out of the zone is a different story all together. I think the Osprey will end up leaving us behind coming out of a zone.
Q
The third .50 cal is already in use. It's a mount that we can attach directly to our ramp. We also have improved .50 cals.
From my observation, it looks like the Osprey is fairly slow on final into a zone. In my opinion, the 46 is much faster in that department. Coming out of the zone is a different story all together. I think the Osprey will end up leaving us behind coming out of a zone.
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