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Per AP, France agrees to sell Russia at least 1 LPH-type vessel

Fog

Old RIOs never die: They just can't fast-erect
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This has been brewing for months, but in today's newswires there's apparently a handshake deal now between France & Russia in which France will sell a Mistral - class helicopter carrier to the Ruskies for about $US900MM. According to other accounts, they may also agree to sell them up to 3 more in future years. I am sure Russia will use the vessels to terrorize Georgia, the Ukraine and generally try to turn the Black Sea into a gunboat region for Russian hegemony. I didn't realize the French are that desparate for foreign exchange, unless, of course, they have already decided that they'll never fight the Russians regardless of what they might do to current & future NATO members.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Buying a ship is one thing, actually being able to use it is another. They had some larger scale ship-borne helicopter experience with their Moskva-class cruisers and Kiev-class carriers but they were primarily used for anti-submarine warfare, not the assault role. The complexity of heli-borne and seaborne assaults from a ship is not as easy as the Marines may make it seem to outsiders and I think the Russians will have a difficult time with making it work for a while, if ever. It may be a nice showpiece for a while but I don't see it having a big impact.

One thing it does show is how far the Russian Navy has sunk from it's Soviet-era peak in the 80's. It is pretty pathetic that they have to turn to one of their former foes to first build them a ship then give them plans to make more. Almost all of their seagoing ships are going to run out of life soon and they don't have anything to replace them with. All they have built since the fall of the USSR is a few frigates and a few subs, hardly a world class navy by any standards. Even their modification of the old Kiev-class carrier Admiral Gorshkov into the INS Vikramaditya has been plagued by cost overruns and serious delays of several years, it is so bad that it has strained the Indian-Russian defense relationship.

I am a little surprised this sale is happening (but hey, it is the French) but overall not much too worry about, except for maybe Georgia, they have plenty to worry about anyways without this new threat.
 

Fog

Old RIOs never die: They just can't fast-erect
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Absolutely nothing surprises me or disappoints re the Russians. We know who they are & what they do. The history of their Navy is the history of their Navy (i.e., everything is built like a piece of crap & frequently destroys itself). I am, however, very disappointed that the French would sell an LPH/LHA type vessel to them. As Lenin said, the "capitalists will gladly sell us the rope we use to hang them." I can only hope the Russians will someday use this ship to attack France or its vital interests. Trouble is, they may well be our vital interests too!
 

PhrogLoop

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IMHO, the Russians see MISTRAL more as an affordable and mobile C2 platform than a sea base for a true amphibious assault. About a year ago, the TONNERRE came to visit Norfolk and impressed quite a few people. Costs about a third of a San Antonio class LPD.
 
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