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Question about photography

woodfinx

New Member
I know that military personnel are allowed to take pictures but I have noticed that a lot of them (on this site in particular) have a short description, who took the picture, and (Released).

What's the process with photographs taken?
 

The Chief

Retired
Contributor
Finally, a question I can answer!!

Take a look at this URL, over 87,000 images. At lot of the "pictures" here abouts came from there. The photos have been release by the "Navy" and are in the public domain.

http://www.navy.mil/view_photos_top.asp

Now if you want to find out about the photographs, believe me more information that you could ever use, including type of camera, f/stop, shutter speed, date, time, event the total number of shutter actions in some cameras, and tons of other information, use Opanda, found at this website:

http://www.opanda.com/en/index.html
 

woodfinx

New Member
Well, I ask because I am thinking of joining and taking pictures (http://flickr.com/woodfinx) is one of my hobbies. When you take pictures on the ship or something do you have to send them to the Navy to get screened before you are able to upload them to say, Flickr?
 

EM1

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
Not really. But if you're caught uploading things you're not supposed to you'll get in trouble. You should have a pretty good idea by that point what you can and cant take pictures of though.

The Navy's official photos are usually taken by MCs, an encompassing rating that used to be seperated out into a few others.
 

The Chief

Retired
Contributor
Ever military instatllation has rules on what can be photographed. General rule is the if you took a photograph, the image is yours to do with it as you please. My rule has always been to find out the installation rules before hand. That said I do not like to take photographs of people (military) without their knowledge/permission. This is somewhat different when at an air show or some other public event. But aboard a military installation I shy away from taking identifiable photographs of personnel. As an aside, at an Air Show I took a photo of the static display of a Super Hornet, razor sharp view of the air intake. A SH jock friend became unglued, said the photo should be classified.

My prize photograph is one of the interior of the PRC National Academy of Sciences Lab in Beijing, including a number of the engineers/scientists, with a huge sign in the background "No Photographing". Think they were non-plused but "they" did not demand my camera nor film.

Hope this helps. Kudos on your site. Well done.
 

HeyJoe

Fly Navy! ...or USMC
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Ever military instatllation has rules on what can be photographed. General rule is the if you took a photograph, the image is yours to do with it as you please.

Check with local base as well as unit PAO/MC on their policy and rules of the road. I run into entirely different rules when at Pax vs Fallon vs Nellis vs Oceana vs Dam Neck/Little Creek vs afloat. Always best to establish rapport with the local PAO shop. It pays off in long run especially if you get challenged, which happens everywhere on Air Force bases, but not so much on Navy installations (I've been challenged twice in 40+ years on Navy and Marine bases, and at least 10 times in one visit on Nellis ramp with an escort in tow because that's how they roll), but not at all at Creech an hour later.

In the past, the Photomate rules held that if you take while on active duty during working hours, it "belonged" to the Navy. This was challenged and became somewhat controversial when they went after "Heater" Heatley after he published The Cutting Edge in the mid 80s. "Heater" maintained the images were taken by him with his own camera. Since many were air-to-air taken on missions he flew, the Photo Community said they belonged to the Navy and threatened to charge him for the cost of the flights. After 2 JAG Investigations, the decision was Navy can ask for access to your images if you are active and you take it on the job. So when Heater did a book for Marine Corps (Forged in Steel), he told them he was doing on leave and they had to give him base access, physiology training, flight gear, etc. so the JAG folks couldn;t claim he took advantage of his active status.

My rule has always been to find out the installation rules before hand. That said I do not like to take photographs of people (military) without their knowledge/permission. This is somewhat different when at an air show or some other public event. But aboard a military installation I shy away from taking identifiable photographs of personnel.

Good advice

As an aside, at an Air Show I took a photo of the static display of a Super Hornet, razor sharp view of the air intake. A SH jock friend became unglued, said the photo should be classified.

Last time I went to Fallon, part of PAO brief when I got my renewed camera pass was the sensitive areas of the SH. Shame on that aircrew for not installing proper safeguards at an airshow where cameras abound.
 

Pugs

Back from the range
None
As an aside, at an Air Show I took a photo of the static display of a Super Hornet, razor sharp view of the air intake. A SH jock friend became unglued, said the photo should be classified.
.

That always drove me nuts. If it's classified for a photograph then it's classified for everyone and everyone who sees it needs a security clearance. Any sailor can stick their head in and look and they don't have clearances. Everyone at Boeing has to have one and every t-line person at BFE Kansas wherever has to have one.

It's classified or it's not.
 
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