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Randy 'Duke' Cunningham

Flash

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I greatly admire him for his prowess as a fighter pilot and what he accomplished in Vietnam. I have read several accounts of the battle on 10 May, 1972 and he did a hell of a job. I do not know much of the details of how he has done as a Congressman though I know he has been a stauch defense advocate.

With all that said, I have noticed a few stories about this the past few days:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20050624-9999-1n24duke.html

Here is an earlier article:

"Lawmaker's Home Sale Questioned"
San Diego Union-Tribune - Published on: 6/12/2005

Mitchell Wade, a defense contractor with ties to U.S. Rep. Randy Cunningham (R-Calif.), took a $700,000 loss on the purchase of the representative's house while Cunningham, a member of the influential Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, was supporting the contractor’s efforts to get tens of millions of dollars in contracts from the Pentagon. Wade bought Cunningham's house for $1,675,000 in November 2003 and put it back on the market almost immediately for roughly the same price. However, the home languished unsold and vacant for 261 days before selling for $975,000. In 2003 and 2004, roughly around the time of the house transaction, business for Wade's company, MZM, Inc., began to soar. In fiscal year 2003, it received $41 million in defense contracts. Since then, MZM has added tens of millions of dollars in additional contracts, including a $5 million contract to provide interpreters in Iraq. Meanwhile, Cunningham used the proceeds of the $1,675,000 sale to buy a $2.55 million house in Rancho Santa Fe. Cunningham conceded the circumstances surrounding the transaction could raise questions, but he insisted the real estate deal was legitimate and independent of his efforts to help Wade win contracts. "My whole life I've lived aboveboard," said Cunningham. "I've never even smoked a marijuana cigarette. I don't cheat. If a contractor buys me lunch and we meet a second time, I buy the lunch. My whole life has been aboveboard and so this doesn't worry me. The last thing I would do is get involved in something that … is wrong. And I feel very confident that I haven't done anything wrong." Congressional and political watchdog organizations expressed concerns, saying the circumstances raise questions about whether the transaction might constitute an illegal campaign contribution or even an official bribe. "This doesn't look good at all," said Center for Responsive Politics Director Larry Noble. "It doesn't look like something that was on the up and up." Scotty Brumett, an official of MZM, said Wade purchased the residence to raise the company's corporate profile in San Diego. Property records do not list Wade or MZM as the buyer of Cunningham's house. Instead, the records state Cunningham sold the house to 1523 New Hampshire Avenue LLC. Nevada state business records show Wade owns that company, as well. It is the address of his Washington, D.C., office.


My first impression, it does not look quite kosher. Especially as someone who is a homeowner and who lives in the DC area, where housing prices have skyrocketed in the past few years.

Any thoughts?
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
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Flash said:
.......My first impression, it does not look quite kosher......Any thoughts?

It's not ... it's called "politics" ....

.....and 10 May '72??? Wish I could have done it. Wish we ALL could have done it and come home. But there is more to the sum of a man and Officer than one day in time --- and Randy Cunningham out of the cockpit is no exception. We all have feet of clay to varying degrees ..... there is a least one other politician "hero" who the same could be said about .... 'nuff said for me.
 

FlyingFortress

Flying turd
A4sForever said:
It's not ... it's called "politics" ....

..... there is a least one other politician "hero" who the same could be said about .... 'nuff said for me.

Hmmm.....a specific Arizona senator?
 

titoj

Future former Wall Street-er
Actually, I've read a lot more details on it, and it goes a little deeper. For one, in addition to taking a large loss on a real estate deal, said defense contractor has since resigned over a scandal involving forced campaign contributions to the same Congressman. Rep. Cunningham also uses as his DC residence a $100k+ yacht owned by Mr. Wade. In return for the housing, Rep. Cunningham pays the docking fees and for upkeep on the boat. (Rather like you buying me a Porsche with the understanding that I'll pay for gas and repairs.)

It gets less and less kosher the more you learn about it. You can respect someone's past heroism - nothing can ever change his sacrifice nor accomplishments - while still admitting that the whole thing stinks of corruption.
 

Schnugg

It's gettin' a bit dramatic 'round here...
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That's one way to accept an "aboveboard" (whatever that means) $700,000 payment from a defense contractor you give work to...

He's my Congressman...51st Cong District in CA...although I live in MD.

r/
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eddie

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ChuckMK23 said:
Reality doesn't matter - welcome to adulthood. Truth and fiction? Right and wrong? All grey areas...

But I'm just a dumb, young, impressionable high school kid! Don't take my childhood away yet!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
 

titoj

Future former Wall Street-er
The Chief said:
Guilty as hell. Vote for Hillary !!!!!!!

Your DNC at work.

Master Chief,

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not - though I think you are. With all due respect, moral relativism doesn't excuse these alleged errors in judgment by the donor and recipient. I wouldn't defend anyone - regardless of party affiliation - who is found to have violated ethics rules. And I apologize if my post gave the impression that I have presumed Rep. Cunningham to be guilty. It does appear, however, that he has some explaining to do - as would anyone in his situation.

If you weren't being sarcastic, then I apologize for my misinterpretation.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
eddiemac0 said:
What is the reality?

The "reality" is the truth. The truth is what really happened.

But .... while some things were alluded to on another post some months ago, let's wait until the 2008 election cycle starts up in earnest, see who the players REALLY are, and then the truth will out (hopefully) ..... because some guys are not gonna' sit still for the P.R. and B.S. any more than the Swifties did in the last go-round.

That's enough for now ......
 

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
eddiemac0 said:
But I'm just a dumb, young, impressionable high school kid! Don't take my childhood away yet!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Which is where CHARACTER comes in and why it is an absolute neccessity as an officer.

:)
 
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