Raw Meat Category: Is anyone else pissed that we're

[Fog]

apparently building a new $750,000 soccer field for the detainees at Gitmo, while at the same time we're cutting 100,000 active-duty troops, proposing to slash Tricare spending & increase fees and cutting the defense budget by some $400BN over the next 10 years? I realize the White House didn't personally decree the new soccer field, but would dearly like to know where the buck stops for this DA decision. There, I feel better already.

 

[squorch2]

Pots of money, if we don't spend it we won't get it next year, etc. etc. I don't hear much bitching about DDA flights at the end of the FY, but the idea is essentially the same.

 

[jmcquate]

Wait....what.....the detention facility at Gitmo is still around? Hopey Changey promised it would go away. I saw him sign something in Jan 2008 saying so. This can't be right.

 

[squorch2]

I know, I wish the president could rule without interference from Congress too...

 

[helolumpy]

Pots of money, if we don't spend it we won't get it next year, etc. etc. I don't hear much bitching about DDA flights at the end of the FY, but the idea is essentially the same.

I'm sorry, are you comparing our military pilots actually getting an enjoyable flight to the U.S. government dropping 3/4 of a million dollars so some people who have plotted to kill Americans can enjoy their time dwn at Club Gitmo???

If so then I don't care what pot of money the funding comes from there not even freakin' close to the same things!!!

 

[squorch2]

"We have $750k for <whatever pot of money>. Odds are good that that soccer field will be around long after the detention facility at Gitmo is closed and if we don't spend it, someone else will get the money and we won't get it next FY."

"We have 75 extra flight hours. If we don't fly them, someone else will get the hours and we won't get them next FY."

 

[Recovering LSO]

I don't hear much bitching about DDA flights at the end of the FY, but the idea is essentially the same.

NO, not essentially the same. AYFKM?

I know, I wish the president could rule without interference from Congress too...

and hasn't he given it hell trying to do so (much like just about every other president before him). Is bitching about it gonna do anything? No. "Different pots of money" - sure, but come off your high horse and just admit that at a minimum its unseemly to be building these shitheads a new soccer field while we're looking to squeeze every last penny out of retirees and vets.

 

[jmcquate]

I'm pissed because it's a soccer field. Build a Baseball field and get the jihadis playing a real game. Who knows.......maybe the Suadis have a great untapped number of 270 hitting shortstops like the Dominicans.

 

[Recovering LSO]

"We have $750k for <whatever pot of money>. Odds are good that that soccer field will be around long after the detention facility at Gitmo is closed and if we don't spend it, someone else will get the money and we won't get it next FY."

"We have 75 extra flight hours. If we don't fly them, someone else will get the hours and we won't get them next FY."

Build a soccer field at a school in north-shit-hole-istan. Dig some wells in subsarahan africa. Here's an idea from out in left field.....build some facilities at a CONUS military instillation. Building those guys a soccer field is not the same as burning flight hours.

BTW - if you're still flying DDA at the end of the quarter or FY there is a pretty good chance your OPs guys are dicking it away - most wings (type or airwing) are pulling hours back well before you get to that point.

You don't really believe what you're writing do you? I'm betting on the fact that you just enjoy the contrarian role.

 

[helolumpy]

"We have $750k for <whatever pot of money>. Odds are good that that soccer field will be around long after the detention facility at Gitmo is closed and if we don't spend it, someone else will get the money and we won't get it next FY."

"We have 75 extra flight hours. If we don't fly them, someone else will get the hours and we won't get them next FY."

So you're OK with a bunch of terroists getting a brand new soccer field, courtesy of the same gov't they are trying to eventually overthrow because if we don't spend this money, then it will be lost...

Once again, I'm at a loss trying to undrstand why in today's resources constrained environment when we are kicking people out of the military (not to mention cutting flight hours) you are OK with some terrorists getting a new soccer field?

How about spending that MilCon money on improving the barracks for our junior enlisted? How about putting some air conditioning in our working spaces? Maybe a parking garage at the carrier piers so we have ample parking for our personnel.

I can think of about 1,000 better things to do with $750K then give these individuals any amenties, much less something better than we provide for our own troops.

 

[Harrier Dude]

$750k won't buy shit here in CONUS from a MILCON perspective.

 

[Recovering LSO]

$750k won't buy shit here in CONUS from a MILCON perspective.

it'll most likely pay to rent a bulldozer and buy some sod.

 

[squorch2]

Right now the argument against the construction of the field boils down to "terrorists shouldn't get soccer fields," right?

1) Most of them aren't terrorists.
2) Treating POWs (for lack of a better term) well has precedence.
3) The soccer field is only for "highly compliant" detainees.

 

[C420sailor]

I say we buy $750,000 worth of plywood, towels, and five gallon buckets. Fuck 'em.

 

[VetteMuscle427]

Perhaps there is a bigger picture that we are not seeing? Maybe this is part of some sort plan to help get the prisoners to open up and give up info? Who knows? But in reality, $750k isn't that much money, and it isn't the difference in anyone getting any flying time and/or people getting shown the door.