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Rifle/pistol Qual At Flight School

USMCMidd

Registered User
Does anyone know if we, as Marines, are allowed to re-qual on the rifle and pistol while at flight school? I would assume we would seeing as we will be there for over a year, but who knows... it IS the Marine Corps after all and that is just too logical.

S/F
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
Don't count on it. I just recently requaled on the pistol after being in the fleet for a few months and haven't touched an M-16 since TBS.

And you're right - it's perfectly logical to exhaust time and resources to requal an officer on a weapon he will likely not use for many years (if ever) and whose scores do not count towards fitreps or promotions. You'll see it's hard enough getting all the enlisted Marines to the range every quarter, that sending officers to requal isn't exactly a priority.

If you want to be all gung-ho and shoot pistols and rifles all the time, buy your own or be a grunt.
 

Herc_Dude

I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein
pilot
Contributor
Does anyone know if we, as Marines, are allowed to re-qual on the rifle and pistol while at flight school? I would assume we would seeing as we will be there for over a year, but who knows... it IS the Marine Corps after all and that is just too logical.

S/F
You get to hang on to whatever you earn at TBS. And don't kid yourself, nothing in the Corps is TOO logical :icon_zbee YUT!
 

Junior

Registered User
pilot
Marines in flight school are exempt from having to qualify annually since there is not a range around P'cola/Meridian/Corpus.... So do your best at TBS or you will be wearing the pizza box for a while.
 

ArkhamAsylum

500+ Posts
pilot
Even infantry units have heartburn getting the Marines qual'ed every year. They'd rather spend the training week and ammo doing some CQB or the like. Don't expect that "20th Award" bar in the air wing.
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
Even infantry units have heartburn getting the Marines qual'ed every year. They'd rather spend the training week and ammo doing some CQB or the like. Don't expect that "20th Award" bar in the air wing.
You'll be lucky to get the "2nd Award" bar. I signed up for the Rifle Range probably 20 times, and got bumped by someone who needed the score for his cutting score...
 

Herc_Dude

I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein
pilot
Contributor
You'll be lucky to get the "2nd Award" bar. I signed up for the Rifle Range probably 20 times, and got bumped by someone who needed the score for his cutting score...

So my question is how many times have you seen the range and qualed for both pistol and rifle since TBS? Thanks sir.
 

E5B

Lineholder
pilot
Super Moderator
I've qualed twice with the pistol since becoming 'fleet trash' but haven't been to the rifle range since TBS.
 

USMCMidd

Registered User
I take it it's easier to re-qual on the pistol than rifle, that makes sense. Is there an opportunity for pistol re-qual in P-cola or is that wishful thinking?
 

Herc_Dude

I believe nicotine + caffeine = protein
pilot
Contributor
Oh to be young again...you will soon learn that if something is logical in the Corps, turn it 180 degrees and perform repeatedly!! You'll be a star and promoted to LtCol.

These things are becoming clearer everyday. Thanks for the advice sir.
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
So my question is how many times have you seen the range and qualed for both pistol and rifle since TBS? Thanks sir.
Same as just about every other aviator. The last time I did both was TBS, in 1999. Yes, conducting a pistol range is VERY easy compared to a rifle range. You need an RSO/OIC, and coaches. That's it, it can be all internal and its just a matter of reserving the range and requesting the ammo. Rifle Range is a WHOLE 'nother story. Those have to be done at stone bay, and all you provide is the ammo and the coaches. They will only allow so many quotas per week, and at MCAS New River, we have to compete with Camp Lejeune for the quotas. Throw in the fact that young Marines need the scores for promotion, and you can see why I've signed up 10 times and gone zero. Requaled with the pistol every year after hitting the fleet though...
 
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