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snizo
Supply Officer
If NROTC is smart -- they are following the lead of many colleges who don't weight the SATs much anymore. (not saying that is the case, though!)
Many colleges are weighting the SATs less these days. If you diidn't do well with the SATs, then you might need to make up for it with out of school activities, athletics, and leadership.
Many colleges are weighting the SATs less these days. If you diidn't do well with the SATs, then you might need to make up for it with out of school activities, athletics, and leadership.
Do they not have the option of using an ACT score?
They did 6 yrs ago when I applied for NROTC... My SATs were not the greatest (if I remember correctly I was at the min) but my ACT's were outstanding... It was either or, they took the highest. But this was a while ago, so I would recomend asking the officer recruiter, just to ensure that things have not changed
vegita1220
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After the obvious things, your score should be around 700ish math, 600+ verbal. Odds are your verbal score is getting killed by reading comp. Take the 10 real SATs, grind your way through every single one, then really really focus on the reading comp. When you're done, try to figure out WHY the reading comp answers are the ones they give. Trust me it'll help.
H20man
Drill baby drill!
guess! on the questions you dont know. my dad and i did the math for it, its better to guess than leave a blank, especially if you run out of time.
1 point for correct answer.
0 for no answer.
-1/4 a point for a wrong answer.
for me it really helped, cause sometimes i just didnt have enough time to finish the math.
say for instance you have 4 questions you have no clue on.
Leaving them blank will give you 0 points, and not help at all.
Guess on those four and here is the probability.
You get one wrong, only .25 a point off, they round up, so you still have that point there, 2 wrong, still have round factor.
Now if you get at least 1 of the 4 right, it cancels the wrong ones you guessed on, plus adds to your score.
my dad had a good analogy for guessing "A monkey gets at least 25% right guessing" So it really doesnt hurt.
Guessing on the ones i had no clue on or had no time for really helped me out.
I took the SAT about 5 times. Math scores stayed at a constant 550-560, verbal had a random spike of 670 at one point. On the last one we implemented the strategy.
I got a 650 Math and a 610 verbal. I concentrated more on the math than the verbal cause the USMMA looks at best combined scores, and i already had that 670 verbal, i dont know if ROTC does combined, but i know it helped me.
Guessing paid off for me, i know a guessed about 3-4 on the first section, and about the same in the other sections.
Studying also paid off, even though i crammed about 3 days before my last test, it really helped, the book i used was "Barons Math SAT I Workbook" pure math.
They have good practice tests that you can take, and the questions refer back to specific lessons in the book, so if you are struggling with a concept you can go back to their lesson on it.
For me, the biggest killer was ratios. My dad helped me with that, and the SAT has a lot of those problems on there.
I would have to say ratios and triangles are the most abundant thing on the SAT.
Also on the 15 question section where it asks which is bigger A or B or both equal or none of the above, looking at what info is given and what they are looking for is very important. I took a prep for the SAT in December, they gave a couple tips, but i cant remeber, all i know is that D "none of the above" occurs a lot more than C.
anyways the best thing to do is find the concepts you dont know, study them.
If you dont have time on a problem, guess, and most important, GET A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEEPPPPPPPPP. Those last sections of the test are the ones that drag on forever.
oh and when the proctor gives bathroom time, like 5 minutes, and the 1 minute stretch break later on, TAKE THEM. Even if you barely have to go pee or anything go, cause if you have to go later on, your gonna regret it. Drinking water on the break helps too, and that 1 min stretch break lets the blood get flowing.
Yeah taking the thing 5 times sucks, but its funny to look back on, i tell my friends i took it 5 times and they are like "Wow, you are a brave man to sit through that thing that many times."
Also like Nozeman said, you can take the ACT, some ppl do better on that than on the SAT.
I took the ACT once and it was held at the local college, i got in there with barely enough time to spare and about half a mile of running through the campus, cause they didnt tell me where it was at, as a result i did pretty poorly on it.
Best of luck and keep trying.
1 point for correct answer.
0 for no answer.
-1/4 a point for a wrong answer.
for me it really helped, cause sometimes i just didnt have enough time to finish the math.
say for instance you have 4 questions you have no clue on.
Leaving them blank will give you 0 points, and not help at all.
Guess on those four and here is the probability.
You get one wrong, only .25 a point off, they round up, so you still have that point there, 2 wrong, still have round factor.
Now if you get at least 1 of the 4 right, it cancels the wrong ones you guessed on, plus adds to your score.
my dad had a good analogy for guessing "A monkey gets at least 25% right guessing" So it really doesnt hurt.
Guessing on the ones i had no clue on or had no time for really helped me out.
I took the SAT about 5 times. Math scores stayed at a constant 550-560, verbal had a random spike of 670 at one point. On the last one we implemented the strategy.
I got a 650 Math and a 610 verbal. I concentrated more on the math than the verbal cause the USMMA looks at best combined scores, and i already had that 670 verbal, i dont know if ROTC does combined, but i know it helped me.
Guessing paid off for me, i know a guessed about 3-4 on the first section, and about the same in the other sections.
Studying also paid off, even though i crammed about 3 days before my last test, it really helped, the book i used was "Barons Math SAT I Workbook" pure math.
They have good practice tests that you can take, and the questions refer back to specific lessons in the book, so if you are struggling with a concept you can go back to their lesson on it.
For me, the biggest killer was ratios. My dad helped me with that, and the SAT has a lot of those problems on there.
I would have to say ratios and triangles are the most abundant thing on the SAT.
Also on the 15 question section where it asks which is bigger A or B or both equal or none of the above, looking at what info is given and what they are looking for is very important. I took a prep for the SAT in December, they gave a couple tips, but i cant remeber, all i know is that D "none of the above" occurs a lot more than C.
anyways the best thing to do is find the concepts you dont know, study them.
If you dont have time on a problem, guess, and most important, GET A GOOD NIGHTS SLEEEPPPPPPPPP. Those last sections of the test are the ones that drag on forever.
oh and when the proctor gives bathroom time, like 5 minutes, and the 1 minute stretch break later on, TAKE THEM. Even if you barely have to go pee or anything go, cause if you have to go later on, your gonna regret it. Drinking water on the break helps too, and that 1 min stretch break lets the blood get flowing.
Yeah taking the thing 5 times sucks, but its funny to look back on, i tell my friends i took it 5 times and they are like "Wow, you are a brave man to sit through that thing that many times."
Also like Nozeman said, you can take the ACT, some ppl do better on that than on the SAT.
I took the ACT once and it was held at the local college, i got in there with barely enough time to spare and about half a mile of running through the campus, cause they didnt tell me where it was at, as a result i did pretty poorly on it.
Best of luck and keep trying.
snizo
Supply Officer
Guessing won't help. If you get 1/4 off for each wrong answer and only have a 25% chance of getting it right (there are 4 answers, right?), you should expect for your score not to decrease ... but you should also expect it not to increase.
You should only guess if you can eliminate at least one answer giving you better than 25% odds at getting it correct.
My high school was on block scheduling so I had English one semester and math the next. I did better on English when I was taking English and better on math when I was taking math... Guess it could depend on your mindset.
You should only guess if you can eliminate at least one answer giving you better than 25% odds at getting it correct.
My high school was on block scheduling so I had English one semester and math the next. I did better on English when I was taking English and better on math when I was taking math... Guess it could depend on your mindset.
American_Ace
AFROTC
The SATs are based on 9th grade math, so if you wait longer you won't necessarily improve (but when they switch the test over in a few years, I think it will be more advanced). I took the test as a sophomore and got an 1190 or something, then, when I took it again a year later I got the same score. In the end I had to work my ass off to get a 1290.
I truthfully believe the SATs aren't a great way to measure intelligence. My best friend has never gotten a B in math and he slept through calc this year, but his best SAT math was barely a 600.
If you need to improve your verbal score just read books and keep a dictionary handy. I highly recommend Catch-22. It's funny (but you need a dark sense of humor) and it uses a lot of SAT words.
I truthfully believe the SATs aren't a great way to measure intelligence. My best friend has never gotten a B in math and he slept through calc this year, but his best SAT math was barely a 600.
If you need to improve your verbal score just read books and keep a dictionary handy. I highly recommend Catch-22. It's funny (but you need a dark sense of humor) and it uses a lot of SAT words.
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