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some questions about bdcp

NightStalker62

Registered User
i just posted on the nrotc forum with some questions an ive been reading about the bdcp quote a lot since. i actually never knew about this program and recruiters always came by my high school and my njrotc class. well the officer recruiter never stopped by. only the enlisted recruiters stopped by. well enough of that. here are my questions.

1) i am going to attend rutgers (state college of new jersey) and i am wondering if that college would be enough for me to get accepted into bdcp?
2) i did take precalc and physics in high school but it seems that i messed up on my placement tests and i must take remedial math and this will back up my math and science classes this semester (i am going to major in engineering but i will make up the classes in winter and summer sessions and catch up and get ahead asap. its what i did in high school and i did much more than i was supposed to.)?
3) this might be a broad question but what must i strive to do to even be considered to bdcp? i will be sure to talk to a recruiter soon even though i am not even a freshman yet. i just want to know as much as possible before i get into the application process and also so i can maintain my motivation.

thanks for your time. :)
 

nugget81

Well-Known Member
pilot
Luckily you are asking questions early. You can only be in BDCP for a maximum of 24 months (36 for technical degrees). As such, you have some time before you would be eligible to apply. In the meantime work hard in class, get good grades, and get involved with various organizations on campus. All of these will be necessary for you to be competitive for whatever community you apply for.
 

IRfly

Registered User
None
Funny thing about BDCP is that, at least according to my experience, the recruiters won't mention it...You have to specifically ask for it. And, when you think about it, if the Navy is going to pay you for up to do years for doing literally nothing except getting good grades and staying in shape (which one would ideally do anyway), you'd probably just want to work on making yourself as ideal a candidate as possible for a specific community (or two). Someone on this forum already posted a list describing all of the officer communities and their requirements... Find one that fits you and go for it.

http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/noru/orojt/generalofficer.htm
 

IRfly

Registered User
None
Explore all of your options...But if you have only two years of college left, I think that BDCP is the better option (keeping in mind that I don't know much about NROTC).
 

NightStalker62

Registered User
ok it looks like a better option but i will just apply for both so it betters my chances. if one doesnt accept me and i have a good record then ther other one most likely will.
 

nugget81

Well-Known Member
pilot
Keep in mind that getting a "no" the first or second time you apply doesn't mean that you should give up. Keep applying until they accept you for the community and program you want.

Also, take a look at NROTC and BDCP, and decide which one will work better for you. You can apply for both, but the timeframes are different (correct me if I'm wrong guys, but it seems that getting started in NROTC is somewhat earlier in a college career than BDCP would be.) When I applied for BDCP, I started the application process in Nov and received final word in July. It is not a quick process, but put forth the effort and you will see the benefits.
 

NightStalker62

Registered User
if i get accepted to the nrotc i would transfer to suny maritime and do two years of that but before that i would have to go to rhode island for 6 weeks which would be my indoc where i would get my uniforms and get taught drill (already know how to drill) and other things so once i get to suny maritime i would be caught up as much as i possibly can in 6 weeks.

is the only time i can apply for bdcp in nov or are there two differnt times of the year in which i can apply or can i apply whenever?
 

IRfly

Registered User
None
You can put in your paperwork for BDCP whenever...Different communities' boards meet at different times and different intervals, so there's a certain degree of uncertainty involved. I first met with a recruiter mid-October and was sworn in Feb 4th. The paperwork (and physicals, etc...) is a pain in the kiester, but in my case, I knew what I wanted and was able to push the process along.
 

NightStalker62

Registered User
irfly would you be able to do me a huge favor and just put me through the whole process from going into the recruiters office and getting sworn in and anything after that that i need to know? i assume this will be a long read but i would really appreciate it.

another question for you. what if i sent my paperwork early and got accepted? would they wait until i am done with my first 24 months of college and then swear me in? also would it be better to apply early so if i dont get in i get another chance to sign up? what would you recommend i do?
 

Thisguy

Pain-in-the-dick
They probably wouldn't accept you early, because they want to see what kind of grades your getting. You need to meet eligibility requirements to apply. Does Rutgers have career fairs? They'll probably have guys hangin' out there.

Also, remember that BDCP is a bonus. If whatever reason you don't get picked up, you can still go to OCS. I would just concentrate on getting good grades your freshman year, than approaching a recruiter your sophomore year. Finding a recruiter is easier depending on where you go to school. Our recruiting office was right across the street from campus. I've heard of ERAU guys having to drive from Daytona to Jax to talk to a recruiter.
 

IRfly

Registered User
None
Thisguy said:
Also, remember that BDCP is a bonus. If whatever reason you don't get picked up, you can still go to OCS.

True.

I'll give it a whirl, as far as going through the process.

1) I decided that I wanted to be a Naval Officer. Simplistic, but very important. It's not a decision that I entered into lightly, and I would advise others to take it seriously as well.

2) I called the local recruiting office. They were happy to hear from me, but disappointed when I only wanted the number for the officer recruiters. Turns out that there were none in my city--the nearest were more than an hour away, but made regular trips to my city because of the two large universities here. I called the officer recruiters, got the machine, and left a message. Nobody called me back. Happened two or three times. Finally I got ahold of someone and set an appointment.

3) Went to the first meeting. Wore a suit and tie rather than the usual jeans and tshirt. I had heard about the BDCP from my brother, so I asked the recruiter about it specifically. They wanted, at the time, guys for crypto and aviation, but he didn't really try to put a sell on me. I gave him my transcripts up to that point and we set a time for me to take the OAR.

4) About two weeks after our first meeting I took the OAR. I scored pretty well, and only then did they begin to show serious interest in me. By this time they had also understood that I was not going to be discouraged.

5) Kind of unusual, but only two days after the OAR (and about two and a half weeks after first meeting) they managed to squeeze me in for a physical at the local reserve center. Like I said, this was unusual, and it turns out that for the other guys there, physicals had been kind of a sticking point because they only did them once a month. I was lucky.

6) Onus was on me at that point. The application is a beast--at least for me, it was kind of difficult to dig up info on all the places that I'd worked (I've moved around a lot and had a TON of summer/school/part-time jobs in several places). I spent a little time calling around, asking people to be references for me or write letters of recommendation. The security clearance application is arduous. I was applying for 1) intel, 2) crypto, and 3) NFO, so I filled out the long form for security clearance. Turns out it was pointless--my wife isn't a U.S. citizen so I was automatically excluded from intel and crypto. My advice here is just to keep working at it. It's a lot to swallow at a time, so I just worked on it for several days a little at a time. Think hard about your statement of purpose on the application. Getting all this stuff together took most of November. It's also a way for the recruiter to measure your mettle; they didn't call or write much during this time--just told me to call when it was done. I heard later that a lot of applicants get bogged down in it and lose a lot of time this way.

7) Start working out. And keep working out. The PRT requirements sound pretty easy (they told me that I needed to get at least 50 pushups in 2 min., 80 situps in 2 min., and run 1.5 miles in under 12 min.), and they are easy if you're not doing them all together. I'm a reasonably athletic guy, but I had never done the actual PRT (situps, rest 2 min., pushups, rest 10 min, run) and I just about died. Once you're in BDCP you'll have an idea of when the PRTs are ahead of time so you can spend a month getting in shape (and remember, save something for the run--the new requirements are that you get scored by your weakest event in the PRT. So it doesn't matter if you do 100 pushups if you're dead on the run). I did my PRT around the beginning of December.

8) Around the same time, I had an interview with a commander in Crypto. He asked fairly searching questions, but the interview went very well. Too bad we didn't know at the time that there was no way I could go into crypto.

9) I turned in my packet right before Christmas and sat down to wait. Right about then I found out that intel and crypto were out, so I was only applying to the NFO community.

10) Right after Christmas I found out that the drug test from my physical had either gotten lost or never happened, so I had to run out and get another one. No big deal--expect annoyances. While at the clinic, I met another applicant who was there with his dad. They were both (especially the dad) firmly convinced that the kid was God's great gift to the U.S. Navy. Kinda irritating...

11) Now I sat down to wait for real. Towards the end of January, they notified me of my acceptance. A week or so later, I was sworn in. A month or so later, I began receiving pay.

And that's that. I still hate PRTs.
 
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