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T-45C’s are grounded again

ea6bflyr

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TWZ reports that the T-45C Goshawks are grounded yet again; this time for engine issues. I’m certain this will have an impact to those trying to earn their wings.
 

PhrogPhlyer

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“why do we still not have a T-45 replacement?”
Or an MV-22 replacement, sheesh!
I wish I had gotten on the receiving end of that gravy train. (yes, that is sarcasm)

1983 $10.3 billion for 167 A/C.
1992 1st fatal Class A during pre-production development.
2000 $3 billion over budget and eight years behind schedule, and 26 fatalities.
2000-2013 Addl. 8 struck A/C and 10 fatalities.
2013 $6.4 billion for 200 A/C.
Addl. 8 struck A/C and 22 fatalities.

If I'm slightly off with the stats, you still get the picture.
 

Brett327

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Or an MV-22 replacement, sheesh!
I wish I had gotten on the receiving end of that gravy train. (yes, that is sarcasm)

1983 $10.3 billion for 167 A/C.
1992 1st fatal Class A during pre-production development.
2000 $3 billion over budget and eight years behind schedule, and 26 fatalities.
2000-2013 Addl. 8 struck A/C and 10 fatalities.
2013 $6.4 billion for 200 A/C.
Addl. 8 struck A/C and 22 fatalities.

If I'm slightly off with the stats, you still get the picture.
What is the mishap rate, and how does that compare to other RW and FW platforms? Without that, a recitation of mishaps going back 30 years provides zero useful information. You, of all people, should understand this.
 

PhrogPhlyer

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@Brett327 you are correct. So I'll do some more data mining and report back.
This will be difficult without actual NavSafCen access, as I'll have to depend on various publicly reported articles.
I do know that in 2022, the Marine Corps Class A rate for the MV-22 was 3.61, compared with the Class A rate for the -60 of 0.87 in the same year.
Then again, I could just defer to this "excellent" (yes sarcasm again) Guidebook published by the Marines. So pretty, lots of colors, and "setting the record straight" with selective filtered data. Makes me wonder how much was spent to create that publication. And does anyone have a link to a current MV-22 guidebook? This one is 12 yrs old.
 

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