T34 Natops

[fierceseaman]

Ok, I've searched the net and found a couple places with old (1 Feb 2000) T34 NATOPS. I know there has been at least 1 update out there since then but I can't find the new NATOPS in electronic form.

I'm week 5 in API several of my friends further down the stream have told me to start studying EPs and Notes, Warnings & Cautions, with the easy time that I have left in API.

So with that said is there anywhere I can get an electronic version of the most recent NATOPS? I found a thread on AW from 2004 where a guy said he had it and would upload it to the AW site but that thread never actually come to fruition I don't think.

Thanks for the help.

 

[usmcecho4]

You are a giant nerd. When you check in you will be issued your very own natops so I really wouldn't worry about pre-studying. You will have more than enough time to read natops while on standby or duty. That being said if you really must get your nerd on this copy is old-ish but current enough for all the primary questions I was asked in the last 6 months.

http://www.t-34.com/documents/manuals/T-34C_NATOPS_Flight_Manual.pdf

Semper Fi,
usmcecho4

 

[ArkhamAsylum]

I concur. The EP's won't make much sense until you have your systems classes and CPT's. You can try memorizing them word-for-word, but when you actually understand how the airplane works, you can think your way through most EP's. You could, however, start looking into course rules (unless you're going to Corpus).

 

[BurghGuy]

Agreed. It's been said many times in many different ways on this site. Get drunk and enjoy your time off, because it gets harder and harder to come by later on.

 

[Spin]

Go here:

https://www.cnatra.navy.mil/index.htm

Click on the Publications Link, then the PAT Pubs link and it should have all your Primary Pubs. I agree don't study too hard before but I was like you and wanted to get a headstart. If you're gonna study something ... study the Aircraft Systems and the Contact FTI.

Don't try and start memorizing things ... just read through them and make sure you UNDERSTAND everything. If there is something you don't understand take the time to figure it out and then keep going. This will make it easier for you when you start and need to memorize cause you will already understand the concepts ... all you'll need to to then is memorize. Don't over do it .... take it to the beach or something and do maybe a chapter a day.

 

[SemperGumbi]

I thought pre-studying was a total waste because I didn't knwo WTF half the stuff meant. But I am not very smart, perhaps. PCL, EPL, PEL, what???

PS
Spin, I'm with you on the "World" but missing the "Wonderful" part.

 

[MasterBates]

PCL- Power Control Lever. the "Throttle"
EPL- Emergency Power Lever- Backup when the PCL breaks. Very touchy.
PEL- Precautionary Emergency Landing. Has a certain profile to be flown, and checkpoints. Normally done for a prop/engine/fuel problem.

 

[THRILLER]

Ok...I'll be the odd ball...


Pre-studying the EP's seemed to work very well for me. Luckily I live in Whiting Pines. Check-in day (when you get your pubs) was the day I hit the procedure (static) trainer in the Academic Building. A buddy of mine and I also hit the static T-34 as well. It is very easy to figure out where things are.

I had a solid 2 weeks to study EP's and, although I did not know how everything worked, I found that pre-studying the EP's really helped me in the systems class.

After the Systems class, I was much more relaxed when going into the next week of CPT's. Do to the fact that I already knew the EP's, CPT's were a breeze.

The key is to sit in the cockpit and actually perform the EP. Have a friend read them to you and perform it. This is the best way to quickly learn them.

My advice, whether you study or not, you will do just fine on the CPT's. However, pre-studying the EP's will serve as a pressure relief valve once you are done with Systems class...trust me.

Peace,

THRILLER

 

[SemperGumbi]

I think it would make more sense once checked into Primary, but during API....I don't know....like I said before, I did it, and could recite some of the good ones (ha), but basically had to mentally relearn them once I knew what was what and what it did.

Glad to have someone who it worked well for, though. I will readily admit that I spent a LOT of time in the sim building for CPT's and all the EP stuff.

 

[Spin]

I thought pre-studying was a total waste because I didn't knwo WTF half the stuff meant. But I am not very smart, perhaps. PCL, EPL, PEL, what???

PS
Spin, I'm with you on the "World" but missing the "Wonderful" part.

LOL ... what ... you don't think Meridian is wonderful .... hahahaha .... Oh and I checked your profile and almost sh#t myself laughing when I saw SDO under your interests ....... AWSOME!!!

 

[Gatordev]

All you need to know...

Speed, clean, check, feather, look, lock, A-B-C

Crewcanopycordsharnessmaskcrunchdivepull

You forgot "Lowerslowerturnawaytalkkill."

What's the "C?" Condition lever?

 

[MasterBates]

Condition Lever-Fuel Off
T-Handle - PULL

 

[propwash]

And you have this to look forward to over the next half dozen years... the NATOPS only get much thicker and heavier as you go along.

And then depending on your airframe, you'll get a trusty Performance Manual, Tactics Manual, Comm/Nav manuals, refueling manual, ordnance related, maintenance related...

Go drink and have fun. If I could go back in time to that year in P-cola, it would have involved even less fretting over this sort of thing and more whooping it up.

I had a few buddies who honestly asked which fleet aircraft had the thinnest NATOPS because that is what they were basing their selection hopes on...

 

[Fly Navy]

And then depending on your airframe, you'll get a trusty Performance Manual, Tactics Manual, Comm/Nav manuals, refueling manual, ordnance related, maintenance related...

Yep... it gets ridiculous.

NATOPS
Performance Manual
PCL
Tactical PCL
4 TACMANs
TOP GUN manual

Talk about reading material!

 

[MasterBates]

The -60S has the thinnest NATOPS I have seen. Not sure about other manuals that go with it.

60R has the BIGGEST BLEEPIN MANUAL I HAVE EVER SEEN!

60B is pretty hefty, although the WSM is supposedly going away, being abosorbed into NATOPS and the Techman and TACMAN.