TAD before TBS

[invertedflyer]

According to MCO P1001R.1J, para 2200.1.b, a 2nd Lt. can be brought onto TAD with a reserve unit until they ship to TBS. I've been in contact with VMFA-134 and they had a few questions regarding the matter. They'd be happy to take me, but don't know where the funding is going to come from. Is it permissive TAD, or would the reserve unit have to foot the bill? I'd be stashed with them for about 3 months. Anyone try this before or have any info?

 

[Cavrone]

I have heard of this. It is permissive if I am not mistaken. I want to do this also, but cant afford to move to a squadron on my own dollar.

 

[SMILE4BULLETS]

after commissioning, my MOI presented this opportunity to me. It's not PTAD, PTAD--key word PERMISSIVE temp. add'l duty-- is only used for things like househunting, pregnancies, etc. If you went down to VMFA-134, it would most likely be no cost TAD (read: no cost for the squadron). So you'd be footing a lot, or all, of the bills as far as living expenses go. As far as basic pay goes, im not sure if you rate that or not while in a no cost TAD status.

However, I'm planning on doing this in between TBS and API. My MOI, a F/A-18 guy, says it's a great opportunity to get to know how things work in the squadron and also to fingerf*ck the T-34C (if they have one).

 

[invertedflyer]

I got some more info on this... the inf. I got was that basically the Reserve Unit has to foot the bill for you... and we all know that reserve units are stretched thin with just their T/O personell, not to mention any new officers requesting TAD. Hope this isn't the case, 'cuz -134 said they can't afford that.

Hopefully it won't cost them anything and I can still go down there and get basic pay.

 

[robav8r]

fingerf*ck.

Now this is a useful word, right up there with "Dick Skinners."

"Hey you, stop fingerf*cking the radio and while your at it, get your dick skinners out of my sh!t."

I'm just sayin"

 

[jfulginiti]

I'm assuming what you want to do is the same as guys working at their OSO before going to TBS. If so, you'll get base pay and that's it.... unless the unit wants to pay you BAH and BAS out of their funds, which isn't likely.

 

[skidkid]

For a reserve squadron bringing someone on Active Duty is called ADSW (active duty special work) this brings a reservist on a full time status for a period of time in support of something be it squadron training or a big exercise. Squadrons recieve some ADSW funds to allow them to bring on extra planners maintenance effort etc; additional funds come from a supported unit or exercise.
The Marine Corps has budgeted for you as a 2ndLt and that budget doesnt involve paying you until TBS, no squadron will put up the money to bring you on active duty when they can bring one of their furloughed airline guy / basic unemployed reserve bum pilots -(good work if you can get it) and get some real work out of them/hook one of their guys up.

Were you in the reserves prior to commisioning? If so and your current unit has funds to burn you can basically do all your drills as RIDTs and come on a modified Active duty either at the reserve unit you are with or at the squadron-paid as a 2ndLt (base pay and BAS nothing else)

For any of these options people have to be willing to spend their sometimes very small amounts of funds on an unknown quantity so expect to at the very least do a lot of busy work and special projects.

Also keep in minds that going to a single seat Hornet squadron means you will not get a good deal flight.

 

[invertedflyer]

The hornet squadron basically said they can't afford me... however I'm getting differing word here. Some are saying that you still get base pay, and that its up to the unit's extra funds to pay BAH etc. ... I take this to mean the base pay comes from somewhere else other than the reserve unit.

However skid I think you're trying to say that basically they'd have to foot the bill, which is the word I got from my OSO. I am prior yes, with 4th LAR at Pendleton. I thought of attaching myself to my unit, but was advised against it by a Major in my company.

 

[skidkid]

There is a difference in the pots of money, if an OSO brings you on PTAD that comes out of recruiting funds and pays for you to be on active duty before TBS. A reserve squadron has no such pot of money, they have ADSW funds mentioned above. Someone has to foot the bill one way or another and it doesnt sound like anyone is willing to do so, unfortunately you dont bring a lot to the fight right now.

Second the advice of not working at your unit you have changed from a LCpl/Cpl/Sgt? to a 2ndLt overnight. Those that were your buddies are now not, this is a bad transition for you to try to make as a new Officer and hard for those who knew you as just another LCpl etc.

 

[invertedflyer]

Second the advice of not working at your unit you have changed from a LCpl/Cpl/Sgt? to a 2ndLt overnight. Those that were your buddies are now not, this is a bad transition for you to try to make as a new Officer and hard for those who knew you as just another LCpl etc.

Yes thats what the Maj. at my unit said, and I couldn't agree more. Its unnecessarily awkward and I'm not going to pursue it. I definitely don't bring much to the table... IMO I'd be hard pressed to find a squadron that'd take me... no harm in asking around though I suppose. Thanks for commentary and info.