The Evolution of IED's a Four Part Series from the Washington Post

[raptor10]

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Timeline

Intro 'The single most effective weapon against our deployed forces'

Part 1 'The IED problem is getting out of control. We've got to stop the bleeding.'

Part 2 'There was a two-year learning curve... and a lot of people died in those two years'

Part 3 'You can't armor your way out of this problem'

Part 4 'If you don't go after the network, you're never going to stop these guys. Never.'

via Naval Open Source Intelligence

 

[mmx1]

A lot of things that would have been better off left unsaid, in my unpriviledged opinion.

 

[3P4Life]

Dear Mr. Rick Atkinson of the Washington Post.

Please choke on your own dick and die.


Thanks.

 

[Flash]

Dear Mr. Rick Atkinson of the Washington Post.

Please choke on your own dick and die.


Thanks.

Huh? You got anger issues dude......

 

[3P4Life]

Huh? You got anger issues dude......

Yeah I know, I do. I suffer from jet lagg and having to be sober to deal with it. My anger is not mis-placed though. You'd think that someone who was with the 101'st and the son of an Army officer would have more sense than to write to what amounts to propaganda for the enemy.

 

[Brett327]

Yeah I know, I do. I suffer from jet lagg and having to be sober to deal with it. My anger is not mis-placed though. You'd think that someone who was with the 101'st and the son of an Army officer would have more sense than to write to what amounts to propaganda for the enemy.

Is it still propaganda if it's true?

Brett

 

[HH-60H]

Is it still propaganda if it's true?

Brett

Yes, the best propaganda is true.

 

[SkywardET]

Is it still propaganda if it's true?

Brett

Propaganda is just one-sided info spread with the intention to influence opinion, so the truth can be propaganda. Propaganda has a well-deserved connotation of being invalid because it almost never includes the whole truth on a given matter.

 

[BackOrdered]

From what we do know about IEDs and the toll they take on our forces, what's the second side to it?

 

[hscs]

Yeah I know, I do. I suffer from jet lagg and having to be sober to deal with it. My anger is not mis-placed though. You'd think that someone who was with the 101'st and the son of an Army officer would have more sense than to write to what amounts to propaganda for the enemy.

Are you for real?

 

[HH-60H]

Are you for real?

You're not the first person to ask that question.

 

[llnick2001]

Has that one been answered yet though? That's the question.

 

[Brett327]

Propaganda is just one-sided info spread with the intention to influence opinion, so the truth can be propaganda. Propaganda has a well-deserved connotation of being invalid because it almost never includes the whole truth on a given matter.

If we accept that definition, then every Op-Ed piece in every publication is propaganda. If propaganda is one-sided, how can the "truth" be propaganda? Isn't the truth a fact - free from subjectivity? It would seem, in this case, that people will label something as propaganda when the truth is something that doesn't support their argument.

I think you made that definition up.

Brett

 

[raptor10]

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.

– Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell, Propaganda And Persuasion​

 

[raptor10]

or from Merriam-Webster

pro·pa·gan·da

Pronunciation: \ˌprä-pə-ˈgan-də, ˌprō-\
Function:noun
Etymology:New Latin, from Congregatio de propaganda fide Congregation for propagating the faith, organization established by Pope Gregory XV died 1623
Date:1718

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2: the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3: ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect