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E6286

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Okay, I am going to meet with an OSO in a couple of days but I was wondering if somebody on here could help me. In feb. I signed an Army OCS reserve contract and now I am learning that the army is not a very disciplined branch of service. I would like to apply for a Marine pilot slot and I was wondering if the marine corps will be able to get me out of my army contract and into an aviation slot with them. Anybody in the know please respond. Thanks.

By the way, I am not to ship out for the army until september.
 
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perchul

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I hope you there was a release clause in your contract, something that says after 4 weeks of training you can agree to leave because the Marines most likely won't be able to release you from it and I doubt your OSO would want to bother unless your a really kickass candidate.
 
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E6286

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Anybody can get out of their contract for any branch of service before they leave. Its called refuse to ship. Any branch of service, any program, if something comes up or you just don't want to go anymore you can refuse to ship up until you get on the plane. Once you are on the plane they own you.
 
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jason12

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well E6286, you have an option that i doubt your reserve recruiter mentioned to you.....i was in the Army Reserve as well, the way out is this.....as with any reserve branch of the armed forces.....when you sign a reserve contract and leave for basic and return you're locked into your contract 6 years in 2 on paper is how they tell you for a total of 8 years. Well what you do is void that contract by signin an active duty contract with another branch of service...or another active duty program within a service....(PLC, BDCP, ROTC) etc. so to answer your question the way out of the reserve contract that they don't like to tell you about is to sign either enlisted active duty or an OCS program with a different service...any other questions just ask...

"IF ONE ADVANCES CONFIDENTLY IN THE DIRECTION OF HIS DREAMS,
AND ENDEAVORS TO LIVE THE LIFE WHICH HE HAS IMAGINED, HE WILL MEET WITH A SUCCESS UNEXPECTED IN COMMON HOURS."
 
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E6286

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Thanks Jason, but I must ask: will the marines be cooperative in my application or will they look down at my decision to try to void my army commitment? I am going to meet with an OSO this week to see about taking my ASTB again (passed by navy standards but not high enough for marines) and my PFT sometime in July once I am ready. Is it possible to go from no running in the past 2 months, to a 21 minute 3 mile in 2 months?
 
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mikedjp

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Have you ever run a 21 minute 3 mile time in the last few years? If you have, chances are no problem getting back into shape. If you've never really run before, you've got your work cut out for you.
 
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jaerose

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You'll definitely have to bust your butt to get the run time, but I would cross-train in order to improve your cardiovascular conditioning while sparing your joints. Trying to get there in 2 months will be rough, but it's feasible. I like to alternate running with an elliptical trainer, since it's the closest alternative to running, but very low impact on the joints. Actually, I do 90 minutes on it in the AM then I do another 30 after lifting. I also work runs in after that a few days per week and my legs feel great. I'm doing all the cardio 'cause I want to shed some blubber by my OCS date. Back to the question, yes you can get there, but take care of your joints, too.

As for whether the marines will look down at trying to switch, I cannot say. That is for your recruiter to answer. I would say that they may have a little more respect for you for switching because you want MORE discipline (instead of say...'I don't like my designator'). Either way, best of luck and I hope you get to be where you want to be at.

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jason12

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well they didn't give me any trouble in swapping services, they were happy to have me, they knew i wanted to go SNA and they also knew the Army didn't have that program, think of it as switching colleges as the one you currently attend doesn't have a good program for your major, no harm done...as for the run...check out a few other posts on good running plans i can't offer too much help on that note but there are plenty of guides on here to hook you up, if not head to runnersworld.com and search your butt of you'll find somethin that suits your needs....

"IF ONE ADVANCES CONFIDENTLY IN THE DIRECTION OF HIS DREAMS,
AND ENDEAVORS TO LIVE THE LIFE WHICH HE HAS IMAGINED, HE WILL MEET WITH A SUCCESS UNEXPECTED IN COMMON HOURS."
 
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AllenAzali

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can someone help me out with this one? what about going from Marines Reserve to Marines OCS, I am interested in getting some enlisted experience before applying for an officer billet.

Signed, Matt
 
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jason12

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Well i think that would basically be similar to an inter service change, where as long as you signed an active duty contract with the Marines it would negate your reserve contract with them as well as any other service

"IF ONE ADVANCES CONFIDENTLY IN THE DIRECTION OF HIS DREAMS,
AND ENDEAVORS TO LIVE THE LIFE WHICH HE HAS IMAGINED, HE WILL MEET WITH A SUCCESS UNEXPECTED IN COMMON HOURS."
 
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Banjo33

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That's the route I went. No problems whatsoever. My reserve unit was very supportive of it and I never encountered any hangups. In the seven years I was in the Reserves, I went to two annual training events (the two week during the summer commitment). The rest was OCS and school(I had to make up a couple of classes). I would suggest this route to EVERYONE, though it isn't a prerequisite, I think it helped tremendously (monetarily and experience wise).
 
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AllenAzali

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Hey Boomer, you were in the reserves for seven years. How much time do you suggest someone put in the reserves, before going full time?

Signed, Matt
 
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dufault.2

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Nice to see some other former Amry guys in here. I took the same route and would also highly recommend it. In fact, E8626, being a high speed soldier in the reserves is a great way to secure some letters of recomendation from high ranking personnel. I worked at the battalion level, and was able to obtain letters from a full bird colonel and a CSM. You can also experience military life without commiting to a active duty contract. Consider it testing the water before you take the dive. When/where is your basic training?
 
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