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What kind of people make it through ocs and flight school? Is it more mental then physical or vice versa? What sort of mentality should you have?
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What kind of people survive ocs & flight school?
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Lonestar155 said:
My friends who have gone say that yeah, it kicks your butt physically, but that the experience is definitely more mentally exhuasting. You can prepare physically, but I don't think you can prepare for a drill instructor screaming in your face. The people who succeed are the ones who can meet both the physical and mental challenges and keep fighting for their dream. It takes a lot of drive and dedication, but if it's what you really want, those things should come naturally.
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Unfortunately, EVERYONE survives Navy OCS if you want it bad enough. Each class probably has at least one or two people who definitely shouldn't be officers, and the entire class knows who they are, and so do the class drill instructors.
However, it seemed to me like Navy OCS was working towards a goal of ZERO attrition, and that nobody would ever be told to go home.
While I'm still IMMENSELY proud to be a Naval Officer, it's very clear that short of injury and DOR, there aren't many ways that people get attrited from OCS.
All that said, there are rumors floating that the Navy is thinking about separating the Aviators OCS from other designators like it used to be.
However, it seemed to me like Navy OCS was working towards a goal of ZERO attrition, and that nobody would ever be told to go home.
While I'm still IMMENSELY proud to be a Naval Officer, it's very clear that short of injury and DOR, there aren't many ways that people get attrited from OCS.
All that said, there are rumors floating that the Navy is thinking about separating the Aviators OCS from other designators like it used to be.
I am a product of the old way, AOCS. And although I haven't been down to observe the combined OCS program in person, I have heard alot about it from our stash ensigns. The combined program is better for the former Newport OCS guys because it is more challenging and physical then the old program. However, the current program is easier then the old AOCS for aviation designators only. I do believe it is probably good to expose the aviators to some of the academics from the black shoe only program. I would be shocked if they split the programs again just because of cost. As to guys not getting the boot that should have, even in the old days they never kicked a guy out because he "wasn't officer material". The only way out of OCS is DOR, fail academics or PT (and then they roll you back for another shot), NPQ or seperation for cause. For cause meaning you broke the law. We had a guy forge an officer's signature on a liberty chit. He truely didn't belong in the Navy and we were glad to see him go. It took all of 6 hours. The DIs lean heavy on the guys that don't belong in the Navy because DOR is the only way to get rid of them. That was one of the benefits of the old AOCS. No Navy CPOs, DIs ran the show from day one until they returned your first salute. Very much like USMC OCS. They had lots of opportunities to make undesirables DOR or get a clue real fast. It was definitly harder than it is now.
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Gunnys still have a lot of power. If you're hosed up, they'll call you down to thier office and give you a special PT session, if you say "DOR" during this, they'll accept it. On the other hand we had one girl DOR about six times, but they were all during stressful evolutions (outpost, 4th week), so the staff didn't take it seriously.
The NAS Pensacola Skipper did tell us though, that back in the days of AOCS, the gunny followed you through API. Bet that was fun.
Gunnys still have a lot of power. If you're hosed up, they'll call you down to thier office and give you a special PT session, if you say "DOR" during this, they'll accept it. On the other hand we had one girl DOR about six times, but they were all during stressful evolutions (outpost, 4th week), so the staff didn't take it seriously.
The NAS Pensacola Skipper did tell us though, that back in the days of AOCS, the gunny followed you through API. Bet that was fun.
What happens if you get to flight school and flunk out? Do they reassign you to another job?
VetteMuscle427 said:
Patmack is right unless you've earned your wings. I'm talking about the FRS and it does happen that some don't make it through the FRS. I recently processed a FNAEB for an NFO and he kept his wings but will never fly again. He is now going GENNAV to serve out his committment of 6 years I believe. Not all of it has to be general navy but at least 2 years does before he can reapply to another community.
...and in half those envelopes was a picture of the bride getting it on with the best man. The other half had pictures of Richard Gere in the ER getting a consult from a small animal vetrinarian.
Patmack18 said:
How did that work for ROTC and Academy commissions then??
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