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Summary of NFO flight school

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willwash

Active Member
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If you want to sound extra cool like the fighter guys speak in the future tense about the stuff that happened in the past, ie, the flight you just flew
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
willwash said:
If you want to sound extra cool like the fighter guys speak in the future tense about the stuff that happened in the past, ie, the flight you just flew
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I have wondered about this for YEARS, even though I accepted and adopted the practice myself while debriefing as a fighter pilot. But yeah, it's pretty goofy.

Anyone know where it came from?
 
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willwash

Active Member
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sevenhelmet said:
I have wondered about this for YEARS, even though I accepted and adopted the practice myself while debriefing as a fighter pilot. But yeah, it's pretty goofy.

Anyone know where it came from?
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My first mission brief/ debrief as an E-2 NFO with the fighter guys I was left alone and unafraid by my squadron. I was wholly unprepared for the experience. The first time as an outsider when you see the lucky junior pilot who gets to recite his OCF recovery procedures to the briefing room, you know you have entered a fundamentally different world. The future tense stuff in the debrief just seems to be part of the same package. It’s goofy but you guys make it sound cool.

Just a lot of “isms” in the fighter community.

What got me most was how long it all takes. Gotta maximize the training value of every precious flight hour I guess, but a 2 hour brief followed by a 3 hour debrief, then afte Screwtop leaves I guess you debrief more, for a 20 minute 2 v 4 SES, it just seems…a lot
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
willwash said:
My first mission brief/ debrief as an E-2 NFO with the fighter guys I was left alone and unafraid by my squadron. I was wholly unprepared for the experience. The first time as an outsider when you see the lucky junior pilot who gets to recite his OCF recovery procedures to the briefing room, you know you have entered a fundamentally different world. The future tense stuff in the debrief just seems to be part of the same package. It’s goofy but you guys make it sound cool.

Just a lot of “isms” in the fighter community.

What got me most was how long it all takes. Gotta maximize the training value of every precious flight hour I guess, but a 2 hour brief followed by a 3 hour debrief, then afte Screwtop leaves I guess you debrief more, for a 20 minute 2 v 4 SES, it just seems…a lot
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It is a lot, and I frequently thought we went beyond the realm of "diminishing returns" in the fighter world, with regard to normal human attentiveness. Debriefing is a skill, and keeping it brief and effective is a harder skill.
 
Pianistwithwings

Pianistwithwings

Grumpy Cat
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willwash said:
My first mission brief/ debrief as an E-2 NFO with the fighter guys I was left alone and unafraid by my squadron. I was wholly unprepared for the experience. The first time as an outsider when you see the lucky junior pilot who gets to recite his OCF recovery procedures to the briefing room, you know you have entered a fundamentally different world. The future tense stuff in the debrief just seems to be part of the same package. It’s goofy but you guys make it sound cool.

Just a lot of “isms” in the fighter community.

What got me most was how long it all takes. Gotta maximize the training value of every precious flight hour I guess, but a 2 hour brief followed by a 3 hour debrief, then afte Screwtop leaves I guess you debrief more, for a 20 minute 2 v 4 SES, it just seems…a lot
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Still less than a 14 hour flight and 3 hours and 59 minutes of maintenance after landing.
 
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eranger24

Well-Known Member
Updating this thread to pay it forward to the future SNFOs. As of right now for NFO’s, NIFE is a two moth-ish wait to start. Two month-ish wait to start primary after completing NIFE-PHYSIO-SWIM. In primary you’ll go through ground school and simulator events as if you were in the front cockpit. Once you complete sim events you go flight side and will be in the rear cockpit not flying the plane. Intermediate for strike you’ll stay at VT-10 then to VT-86 for advanced. VT-4 for big wing.

Hope this helps 🫡
 
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Frostydevil

SNFO
eranger24 said:
Updating this thread to pay it forward to the future SNFOs. As of right now for NFO’s, NIFE is a two moth-ish wait to start. Two month-ish wait to start primary after completing NIFE-PHYSIO-SWIM. In primary you’ll go through ground school and simulator events as if you were in the front cockpit. Once you complete sim events you go flight side and will be in the rear cockpit not flying the plane. Intermediate for strike you’ll stay at VT-10 then to VT-86 for advanced. VT-4 for big wing.

Hope this helps 🫡
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Thanks for the gouge 🫡

But NIFE class up times are a bit inaccurate for OCS grads currently. OCS SNFOs are pushing 8+ months to start academics right now.
 
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