Pinpenguin
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Would I still be eligible for BDCP even though it is my last semester, and if not I am still able to go for the next board?
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exNavyOffRec
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No they would process you normally, there is no reason I can think of you can't be submitted for the board, look in the SNA/SNFO threads and many are submitting who are less then a year from graduation.
BenMSpeaks
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Does anyone have a specific outline of the parts of the PBM section?
DBM
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On page 252 of this study guide (or 262 on the PDF), it explains the PBM sections. The only one missing is the Terrain Identification because it was recently added.
Peterson Study Book.pdf
Peterson’s®. Master the Military Flight Aptitude Tests TM. 9th Edition. Dr. Sonya “Lethal” McMullen—Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Dr. Mac “Raven” McMullen—The Pennsylvania State University. ®. ®. About Peterson’s Peterson’s®, a Nelnet company, has been your trusted educational publisher...
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BenMSpeaks
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Thank you so much!On page 252 of this study guide (or 262 on the PDF), it explains the PBM sections. The only one missing is the Terrain Identification because it was recently added.
Peterson Study Book.pdf
Peterson’s®. Master the Military Flight Aptitude Tests TM. 9th Edition. Dr. Sonya “Lethal” McMullen—Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University Dr. Mac “Raven” McMullen—The Pennsylvania State University. ®. ®. About Peterson’s Peterson’s®, a Nelnet company, has been your trusted educational publisher...
ASTB First Attempt 62 8/8/8 - From Nuke to NFO
(copy and pasted from reddit)My scores are listed in the title. To give hope to all of those struggling and pay homage to reddit/air warriors, I will provide some background of myself and share my experience.
I was never the smartest in high school or growing up for that matter. I bought legos and had my brother put them together for me, because it was too hard for me. I was the dumbest of 3. I honestly did not know what was going on half the time in high school, but I managed As and Bs so I could play video games without getting harped on. I took no advanced classes. I went on to college where I ended up switching majors 3 times. I wasn't a stellar student by any means. My grades started dropping, because I was getting really distracted, and before things got worse, I decided I needed to do something else. I took the ASVAB and became a nuke shortly after getting out of college (I never finished btw). When taking the ASVAB, I scored well, but I remember feeling like I knew none of the answers, and I truly feel as if I got lucky. I swear I was getting questions about like planets and flowers. Through my nuke schooling, I spent 20-30 hours in the school hours a week for studying, so it was not a breeze by any means. I only did well, because I tried so hard. I have always had to apply myself HEAVILY to achieve anything academically positive. Nothing comes naturally. I do not view myself as "smart", but I know I can learn things if I really try. I recently separated in November 2024 after doing 6 years as a nuke on fast attack subs. I cannot stand civilian HR/pizza party culture and want to regain the purpose and drive the military gave me. I miss the boys and the suck. NFO seemed way cooler than subs, so I am giving it a shot.
I started studying for the ASTB for a total of a month. Mind you, I work a full-time job, had finals for my bachelors, started my masters and my wife had our baby the last 2 weeks of studying (on top of a 2 year old toddler). By no means could I dedicate any consistent time, but I made use of my gaps. I used everything off of this post. Nothing more. Nothing less.
The ASTB prep app, cram flash cards and Gomez drive math worksheets were the most useful things. I also bought the X52 Hotas which I practiced about 5-10 times a day for maybe 5 days on jantzen's. I made sure my dichotic listening was always 10/10 and could track under 200 for throttle/stick.
The test:
Math - It ended like 15 minutes in for me. It never got "hard" like people say. The gomez math work sheets cover everything you need. I spent 2-3 minutes on a question or two, so it goes to show accuracy is key in some cases. I never just guessed.
Reading Comprehension - I was confident on 0 of the questions. I felt like I forgot what the purpose of what I was doing, because the answers were so odd. I ended up running out of time. I couldn't have gotten through more than 10 questions.
Physics - It ended early as well. It was all concept with no math. Others have experienced either this or something similar. ASTB prep app topics had everything I needed and more. 2-3 questions I did not study, but you could infer the answer based on the question/answers given.
ANIT - The cram flash cards and ASTB prep app included EVERYTHING I needed.
NAFTI (or whatever it is) - I stayed consistent. I am very big on procedural compliance and group performance, so my answers aligned well with that. Just stay true and consistent. Sometimes you gotta just choose one when neither apply to you. It is like 100 questions. Don't think too hard about it. If I am being honest, my thought process through some of it included "well that is a real S%!# bag thing, I will choose the other thing".
Stick/throttle - The dichotic listening is a little different than jantzen's in terms of audio, but you can get used to it during the practice runs. I also needed a second to get used to the stick/throttle, because the recruiter's sticks were tighter/slower. I have heard others having this same experience. Emergency procedures bugged and skipped my practice round. It didn't matter, because it was cake. I never practiced them before the ASTB, and I did well. Write the steps down, make sure you know what fingers are doing what and take a moment from tracking to deal with the casualty. You have time to get your bearing between each event.
UAV - I missed 2 early on due to rushing. I averaged ~3 seconds on each. My mouse was very insensitive, so it slowed me down a little. I think nerves slowed me a little too.
Terrain Association - The examples are easier than on the app, but the aerial photos used look like they were taken with a potato, so some of the small objects are hard to reference if they are skinny. It has a timer bar, so it makes you feel more rushed than on the app. I spent a good 15-20 seconds on most of them. One of them I spent almost the full 30 (any southern directions mess me up lol). I don't think time matters too much.
I believe anyone can do this. I am not the most confident person in the world, but I studied when I could and made it happen. Go through flashcards before bed. Play UAV/Terrain Association on the toilet. Do a math worksheet or two every day. You can do it.