I'm aware, and maintain that based on previous iterations of the NDS, it was/is of questionable value; however, since we're now using such documents for jingoistic pandering, who can say.
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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?
- Thread starter Randy Daytona
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He bowls overhand.
The younger generation in Japan is more interested in being brainwashed by weird fucking videos than doing pretty much anything else.
We're about to be there.
Dont complain, it's a reasonable response to the title of the thread... Apparently the US Navy, during a government shutdown that, inarguably, has some pretty impactful side-effects, sponsors/holds political rallies under the guise of a 250th celebration.
Political rally pretending to be a Navy 250 celebration. The stands full of junior enlisted in uniform cheering, smartphones waving about is in stark contrast to the disciplined behavior of FO/GO at Quantico.
I noticed POTUS in a very XXXXL Massif flight jacket. Good job SUPPO!
But hey, Happy 250 Navy!
We are getting wokeness' and 'losers' out of the military, Trump tells Navy at Norfolk
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But, what's the US Navy to do? Who's going to point out the absolutely reprehensible degree of politicization going on here (and elsewhere)? They'll just get fired. This is not a partisan or "TDS" post. The discomfort would be just as strong if team blue were doing this. The bedrock of the professional military ethic is being prostituted for populist news clips. There could be an electoral clean sweep in 2028 (unlikely), and it would still take a generation of service-members to undo the damage.
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Honestly, solid points.
A former HC-6 squadronmate is a contract sim instructor at NAS NORVA in the MH-60S - he teaches both CAT 1 pilots and new aircrew (Aircrew have a dedicated sim, who knew!!). He remarks about the political divide between the Nugget Replacement Pilots and the enlisted Aircrew is significant and worrisome.
Honestly curious on how much training in boot camp or beyond our Sailors get on avoiding partisanship compared to mids at USNA/NROTC. I started NROTC in fall 2004 and being an election year within the first weeks of school it was beaten into our heads to avoid partisan associations as a midshipman. We were encouraged to go to talks on campus, join College Republicans/Democrats as we desired, but to make sure we were clean on the break. A couple weeks into the semester I and a bunch of mids went to a speaker and it happened to be on a day we were in uniform. I can’t remember the topic, it was political in nature but not explicitly partisan, however at one point the speaker basically polled the audience by show of hands on support. My buddies and I did not participate and the speaker actually recognized and applauded how we did not participate. I contrast that to what I saw today.
It's helpful to examine who is generally targeted by populist messages. That is by NO means a jab at our enlisted Sailors - I'm the kid of a retired Chief, but it's useful to think about the populist message, and the cultural/organizational lines it tries to exploit.
This discussion is directly relevant to the title of this thread, because it goes directly to our ability to function and capitalize upon the immense trust the civilian population places in those with guns, missiles, and bombs, and the faith they'll be used appropriately and responsibly.
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What does he see?
The discomfort WAS as strong, and people went along with the WOKE fueled changes. Many were booted over COVID shots.
For better or worse, the damage that had occurred needed a kick start reset.
How soon we forget that all the comments above were valid over the past 8 years, just change the players and the agenda.
The political divide is and always will be part of the military, and often quite visible.
During the Reagan years, whenever the President landed at El Toro, and then helo'ed to Tustin, he was greeted by several hundred cheering Marines, was a couple thousand on his first visit. For Clinton's first visit to El Toro, he was greeted on the flight line Quarter Deck by the Base XO and his wife.
Obama went out of his way to visit the Pentagon, and then make a speech while there that he was going to drastically cut the Military budget.
What's different today is the President is not hiding exactly what he thinks on any subject. He's always been that way, and now everyone seems surprised?
That has always been the debate, although interestingly, an apolitical one. Either flavor of administration continued the support of those specific requirements within the constraints of available assets and a two-front war.
It's an interesting perspective to dive into. I don't mean your specific perspective, but the overall idea. I can certainly understand your stated concern as it pertains to the region of the country you live in. In the south, there's much less perceived damage. Just the military doing military stuff. 'Mericuh.
Please understand I'm not discounting the concern, but just pointing out the regional (or socio-economic) perspectives on the micro level versus the national level.
And as you pointed out, all of it is fueled by the populist messaging.