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Dinner dress for an 0-1?
- Thread starter brothe01
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Overall, I am not against getting them as JO, if you're in the squadron and you want to get them, great. However, your chances to wear them in flight school are rarer than rare. Your ENS salary is small enough, I wouldn't spend the money right now if I were you.
That's what I was thinking. If you don't think you'll gain even ten pounds then do it if you have the cash.
Make sure your tailor understands...IN ENGRISH...to leave some damn fabric for the uniform to be taken out. Be careful, they're very set in their ways.
Don't use credit. That's stupid because you don't need them.
There's a 70% chance that at the next occasion that you can use them, you'll where SDBs (or whatever it is the Navy wears to party in) because you don't want to be "That Guy."
I've never seen a Marine Lt in Mess Dress.
There was one at one TBS company's Mess Night (Alpha 07?). Claimed his wife wanted him to buy it. Once word got out, he was required to wear it to Mess Night. Yeah, he was "that guy". I think he had the boatcloak too but don't quote me on that.
Boat Cloak? That is truly "that guy"ish. I've only ever seen it on the Uniform Plate V. Don't even know where to get one.
Spend the money on beer.
I have worn my SDB jacket 3 times since I put on wings. It has been almost 3 years since the last time. It's enough of a PITA to keep the proper stripes on the SDB jacked (not to mention expensive), that I don't know why you would want to double the pain by buying a jacket that you don't. There is nothing cool about it. It just makes you stick out at formal events.
I have worn my SDB jacket 3 times since I put on wings. It has been almost 3 years since the last time. It's enough of a PITA to keep the proper stripes on the SDB jacked (not to mention expensive), that I don't know why you would want to double the pain by buying a jacket that you don't. There is nothing cool about it. It just makes you stick out at formal events.
It is a little bit different in the Navy, a lot of LT's in the Navy do throw down for mess dress but very few O-2's and below do so. I have never seen anyone below Major wearing a mess dress in the Marines.
I would wait until you are in a fleet squadron, and wait until you are in for a littel while and have a reason.
I too have mess dress... both blue & white.. like Matt, I needed'em in school. Since I commissioned, I have worn them once: NASP-cola Navy Ball. I've worn SDBs all of 4 times since May 05 and whites slightly more. Chokers twice since I graduated.. day after for two weddings and a year after for my own.
Get 'em when you need 'em. That said, when you need 'em, get 'em! What is the point of wearing a uniform when you have the JOs wearing one thing and the hinges and up wearing something completely different anyway? Give me all the flack you want, call me a hinge-in-training, but nothing looks dumber than showing up to a formal event in Service Dress Bozo with mini medals and a bow tie. That ridiculous uniform makes everyone who wears it look like a 12-year-old kid wearing Dad's blazer.
Want a guaranteed recipe for disposing of mass quantities of grog? Schedule a dining-out with the uniform as Dinner Dress White (Jacket) with the usual exception of Dinner Dress White being optional for O-3 and below. I bet you'll be able to fine a significant portion of the mess for being out of uniform. People read it as "Chokers optional" and wear Full Dress White instead, because they can't wrap their minds around something as monumentally stupid looking as chokers with mini-medals actually being authorized. A uniform is a uniform and should be, thus, uniform.
Rant over. I've seen all ranks wearing mess dress, so chances are you're not the only guy out there with them on as a JO. You're just highlighting your superior style, insouciance, and élan . . . which last I checked were mandatory in Naval Aviation anyway!
Want a guaranteed recipe for disposing of mass quantities of grog? Schedule a dining-out with the uniform as Dinner Dress White (Jacket) with the usual exception of Dinner Dress White being optional for O-3 and below. I bet you'll be able to fine a significant portion of the mess for being out of uniform. People read it as "Chokers optional" and wear Full Dress White instead, because they can't wrap their minds around something as monumentally stupid looking as chokers with mini-medals actually being authorized. A uniform is a uniform and should be, thus, uniform.
Rant over. I've seen all ranks wearing mess dress, so chances are you're not the only guy out there with them on as a JO. You're just highlighting your superior style, insouciance, and élan . . . which last I checked were mandatory in Naval Aviation anyway!
MasterBates
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Get AWGs first, then DDW/B if you have the coin..
But maybe I am biased.
<--Has AWGs, but has not needed anything other than SDB/Chokers in 4 years. Last time I wore "Bozo Chokers" was in 2003.
But maybe I am biased.
<--Has AWGs, but has not needed anything other than SDB/Chokers in 4 years. Last time I wore "Bozo Chokers" was in 2003.
Viva la résistance?
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
Damn Right!
phrogpilot73
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Try the Marine Shop. I knew a Major that had one, and it looked pretty sharp. If I make LtCol in the Reserves, I may pick one up just 'cause...