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Stupid questions about Naval Aviation (Pt 2)

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A4sForever

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heyjoe said:
The 4 oz bottles were pathetic. Even Flight Docs admitted they would hardly do anything to slake your thirst after an ejection..... One pilot ... figured out how to rig two GI canteens on his SV-2.
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One of our B/N's used to take up the slack by flying w/ cans of Coke ... until he popped on in the cockpit at altitude one fine day ... :eek:

I don't know all the physics of it, but the results were "dramatic" ... or so I heard ... :D
 
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A4sForever said:
One of our B/N's used to take up the slack by flying w/ cans of Coke ... until he popped on in the cockpit at altitude one fine day ... :eek:

I don't know all the physics of it, but the results were "dramatic" ... or so I heard ... :D
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And there was the time I was sitting in the left seat on a flight from North Island to San Clemente. About 10 minutes after takeoff, I get the Coke out of my helmet bag. As I was starting to open it, it slipped out of my hand. Hit the landing gear handle, which caused the gear to go down, of course startling the right seat pilot. And put a pinhole in the Coke can, so Coke was spraying all over the cockpit.

AS far as water, I got in the habit of putting 1 qt canteen(s) in the lower leg pocket(s) of the flight suit. Easy to get to while you're in the seat, and as you drink it, becomes a source of a little extra floatation. Luckily I never needed to take advantage of that aspect of it, but if you ever saw me gradually sink while "drownproofing" at DWEST, you would understand why I thought about that!
 
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Have there been significant changes in the SERE training/survival training based on experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan?
 
Uncle Fester

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exhelodrvr said:
Have there been significant changes in the SERE training/survival training based on experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan?
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A good chunk of the SERE syllabus is classified, for obvious reasons. But to answer your question on the unclass level...yes.

What did I take away, personally? As Kipling said, if you're ever in danger of capture by Afghans, save the last bullet for yourself.
 
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Uncle Fester said:
A good chunk of the SERE syllabus is classified, for obvious reasons. But to answer your question on the unclass level...yes.

What did I take away, personally? As Kipling said, if you're ever in danger of capture by Afghans, save the last bullet for yourself.
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Thanks; I went through it almost thirty years ago, and was hoping they updated it significantly. Do the squadrons provide good post-SERE school periodic training? That was lacking in my day. (Personally interested, as my son will be getting commissioned this spring and heading for P-cola.)
 
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exhelodrvr said:
Do the squadrons provide good post-SERE school periodic training? That was lacking in my day.
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Sorta. The Personnel Recovery SME in the squadron gives briefs on the theater-specific PR SPINS; it's part of the mass of briefs you get right before you in-chop (airspace, intel, etc).
 
FlyinSpy

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exhelodrvr said:
Thanks; I went through it almost thirty years ago, and was hoping they updated it significantly. Do the squadrons provide good post-SERE school periodic training? That was lacking in my day. (Personally interested, as my son will be getting commissioned this spring and heading for P-cola.)
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We made/make it a point to get a guy from FASOTRAGRULANT or 9thAF PR to come and give a SERE update brief in person prior to deployment. Makes a lot bigger impression than having one of your guys read someone else's slides. (As a sidenote, they are funded to do exactly that, so there are no out of pocket costs to the requesting squadrons, other than buying the guy some doughnuts or a beer or three....)
 
nittany03

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heyjoe said:
There have been cases of individuals dehydrating themselves in order to not have to deal with use of a piddle pack. That is a recipe for disaster. Your performance can deteriorate considerably if you became dehydrated (excessive hydration can also result in other side effects, but that is another story).
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You can also get kidney stones. Kidney stones SUCK and can put you med down for months. Trust me. If you don't drink 2-3 Nalgenes worth daily, you're doing it wrong.
 
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nittany03 said:
You can also get kidney stones. Kidney stones SUCK and can put you med down for months. Trust me. If you don't drink 2-3 Nalgenes worth daily, you're doing it wrong.
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That is exactly what got the attention of NSW community. Too many guys were getting blood in their urine or kidney stones from dehydration. A kidney stone can stop you dead in your tracks. You do not want to go there.
 
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heyjoe said:
That is exactly what got the attention of NSW community. Too many guys were getting blood in their urine or kidney stones from dehydration. A kidney stone can stop you dead in your tracks. You do not want to go there.
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Been there, done that; it's awful. So is the surgery to retrieve the others that haven't passed yet. It's also funny how when you have one, you start hearing about the other guys who did . . . you will NEVER be dehydrated again after passing one of those puppies. Worst. Pain. EVER!
 
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