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Computer Poll

Mac, PC, Linux?

  • Mac

    Votes: 32 39.5%
  • PC

    Votes: 46 56.8%
  • Linux based

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    81

DFSpence

New Member
I thought the only people that used macs were tree hugging, green peace lovin' uber-liberal yuppies!

Please gentlemen, explain to me how you came about purchasing one of these hip, 'designer' computers...... :D

I am not defined by my possessions. I am defined by my actions and beliefs.

Plus Macs just work and they are simple to use. I'll never buy another PC for personal use.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
I am not defined by my possessions. I am defined by my actions and beliefs.

Yeah, go tell that to this guy.

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Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
But, I digress...

I much prefer a PC to anything mac... I like PCs because everything is modular and non-proprietary. Upgrading is easy and cost effective. Inexpensive parts are widely available and at a fraction of the cost of their Apple counterparts.

PCs are certainly less user friendly than apple products, but anyone that likes to customize their PC in any amount of detail will appreciate the tradeoff; PCs are far more 'tweakable'.

Another reason I go for the PC is the software availability... The vast majority of software out there is written explicitly to support the PC (although support for Apple products is and has been growing steadily throughout the years and is modest these days).

But to each their own.. :icon_smil
 

torpedo0126

Member
I thought the only people that used macs were tree hugging, green peace lovin' uber-liberal yuppies!

Please gentlemen, explain to me how you came about purchasing one of these hip, 'designer' computers...... :D

You thought right...I'm posting from my tree hut next to the base right now.
 

torpedo0126

Member
PCs are certainly less user friendly than apple products, but anyone that likes to customize their PC in any amount of detail will appreciate the tradeoff; PCs are far more 'tweakable'.

Another reason I go for the PC is the software availability... The vast majority of software out there is written explicitly to support the PC (although support for Apple products is and has been growing steadily throughout the years and is modest these days).

But to each their own.. :icon_smil

I don't know...Macs are pretty customizable. The difference is how and the way you customize is pretty rigidly controlled.

With Apple switching to Intel chips, most consumer level software is supported. You start getting into heavy analysis software (MATLAB or something) then yes your right.

Also, one of the reasons I really like Apple is that everything is sleek--like a well designed aircraft. You look at a lot of PCs they look like souped up cars with flashing blue lights and a thousand unneeded buttons.

Btw, pay attention to the computers used in commercials and movies. 90% of the time they are Macs--just an interesting point.
 

torpedo0126

Member
Ahh yes... Sipping on your double chai white choclate mochalatte and reading the New York Times i'd imagine.... :D

Not to be picky, but you left a few things out. Sipping my fair trade double chai white chocolate mocha latte and reading the New York Times made from recycled paper.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
Also, one of the reasons I really like Apple is that everything is sleek--like a well designed aircraft. You look at a lot of PCs they look like souped up cars with flashing blue lights and a thousand unneeded buttons.

Btw, pay attention to the computers used in commercials and movies. 90% of the time they are Macs--just an interesting point.

Exactly my point. Macs are sleek... But I don't need my laptop to be aerodynamic.

I think it depends a lot on your objective... In many instances, a customized, $700 PC can accomplish the same tasks a $2000 Mac can. This is my biggest problem...

You spend $2000-$4000 on a high end Apple, and that is it... Two years down the road, when the video card is behind the times and can't support the latest and greatest high res applications/games/media, you're going to have to spend an additional $2000-$4000 on another one...

With a PC, all you have to do is go to newegg.com or even Best Buy, get yourself a newer video card for $80-$150, take your old one out of the slot on your motherboard, put in the new one and you're up to speed.
 

torpedo0126

Member
You spend $2000-$4000 on a high end Apple, and that is it... Two years down the road, when the video card is behind the times and can't support the latest and greatest high res applications/games/media, you're going to have to spend an additional $2000-$4000 on another one...

While this is only one experience, my 2003 G4 laptop runs great with no slowdown. I haven't needed another computer since. Whereas I can't even count on my hands how many times my roommates Dells have been serviced.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
While this is only one experience, my 2003 G4 laptop runs great with no slowdown. I haven't needed another computer since. Whereas I can't even count on my hands how many times my roommates Dells have been serviced.

Go out and get Call of Duty 4 or any newer title and try to play it on that 2003 laptop of yours and then get back to me...

And as far as the Dell is concerned, I'm not going to stick up for them, because they are only one of several mainline computer manufacturers, but a lot of people don't take care of their computers...

If you go buy a Honda Civic, or any other reliable car, and don't change the oil on it, or replace the breaks, eventually, bad sh*t is going to happen.....

This is the same type of stuff that happens to people that don't protect/take care of their PCs.... A lot of people don't know/care enough to run a weekly spyware scan, to delete their temporary internet files/cookies, and to keep a an anti-virus and firewall running constantly... As someone that has 'serviced' computers for a living before, this is the root of 75%+ of the problems that people experienced.

Another huge problem is people not knowing what they are installing on their computer..... I went to one ladies house that was complaining that her computer was running 'really slow'. Come to find out, she had some 30+ programs in her tray that were set to run when her computer started up; just eating away at her available memory.... These are all things she installed over the years without paying attention to the 'start this when windows starts' box. After removing all of these parasitic applications and defragmenting her hard drive (something people should do as well), it ran like new.

This is the easy type of stuff that people neglect to do over time that really leads to them thinking their computer is 'has a virus' or is 'out of date'.

Very rarely is component failure the issue when people need 'servicing'. It certainly happens when a computer isn't shipped properly and is more common in laptops, but it is rare.
 

LazersGoPEWPEW

4500rpm
Contributor
Go out and get Call of Duty 4 or any newer title and try to play it on that 2003 laptop of yours and then get back to me...

And as far as the Dell is concerned, I'm not going to stick up for them, because they are only one of several mainline computer manufacturers, but a lot of people don't take care of their computers...

If you go buy a Honda Civic, or any other reliable car, and don't change the oil on it, or replace the breaks, eventually, bad sh*t is going to happen.....

This is the same type of stuff that happens to people that don't protect/take care of their PCs.... A lot of people don't know/care enough to run a weekly spyware scan, to delete their temporary internet files/cookies, and to keep a an anti-virus and firewall running constantly... As someone that has 'serviced' computers for a living before, this is the root of 75%+ of the problems that people experienced.

Another huge problem is people not knowing what they are installing on their computer..... I went to one ladies house that was complaining that her computer was running 'really slow'. Come to find out, she had some 30+ programs in her tray that were set to run when her computer started up; just eating away at her available memory.... These are all things she installed over the years without paying attention to the 'start this when windows starts' box. After removing all of these parasitic applications and defragmenting her hard drive (something people should do as well), it ran like new.

This is the easy type of stuff that people neglect to do over time that really leads to them thinking their computer is 'has a virus' or is 'out of date'.

Very rarely is component failure the issue when people need 'servicing'. It certainly happens when a computer isn't shipped properly and is more common in laptops, but it is rare.

First, the mere fact that you suggested he used his mac for gaming is LAUGHABLE. Macs aren't for gaming. That's why I own a PS3. PC gaming is more expensive than buying a Mac for personal use.

Spyware checks? Virus checks? I've never had either on mine. I've checked once a year since I've had it for shits and giggles. Nothing, nada. One more reason to not buy a PC.

As for the cost of Macs. They're well priced for what they offer. The Macbook is one of the best selling consumer laptops on the market.

Stop fighting this uphill battle. If you're using a PC you should be using Linux. Oh and my PS3 has Linux.
 

m0tbaillie

Former SWO
But, I digress...

I much prefer a PC to anything mac... I like PCs because everything is modular and non-proprietary. Upgrading is easy and cost effective. Inexpensive parts are widely available and at a fraction of the cost of their Apple counterparts.

PCs are certainly less user friendly than apple products, but anyone that likes to customize their PC in any amount of detail will appreciate the tradeoff; PCs are far more 'tweakable'.

Another reason I go for the PC is the software availability... The vast majority of software out there is written explicitly to support the PC (although support for Apple products is and has been growing steadily throughout the years and is modest these days).

But to each their own.. :icon_smil

This argument would have a very small modicum of truth...if it were still the year 1999.

Almost nothing you said above still applies today day, doubly so after Apple mac the PPC->Intel switch.

Also, Parallels and VMWare Fusion run XP, Vista, or any Linux distribution quite well AND have 3D acceleration (parallels moreso at the moment than vmware) for your precious precious games.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
PC gaming is more expensive than buying a Mac for personal use.

Spyware checks? Virus checks? I've never had either on mine. I've checked once a year since I've had it for shits and giggles. Nothing, nada. One more reason to not buy a PC.

As for the cost of Macs. They're well priced for what they offer. The Macbook is one of the best selling consumer laptops on the market.

Incorrect, fallacious argument, and Incorrect. Oh, and anyone that has Linux on their PS3 needs to get out more.:sleep_125
 

m0tbaillie

Former SWO
Oh, and anyone that has Linux on their PS3 needs to get out more.:sleep_125

Anyone making the same kinds of baseless, antiquated, pseudo-technical arguments as you needs to spend more time on Tom's Hardware or something. The cell processor used in PS3s is incredibly, incredibly powerful and plenty of universities and amateurs alike have been buying dozens of them en mass and developing low-budget clusters because of their powerful high performance computing capacity.

If you're going to jump into this thread and claim that Macs are for hippies (whether it was tongue-in-cheek or not) and bash Linux you should *at least* know what you're talking about.
 

brownshoe

Well-Known Member
Contributor
I have PC’s, at work and at home, they suck. As far as I’m concerned, DOS 6.2 was the last good MS operating system. All those ‘good old’ DOS games were fun!:D

Steve
 
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