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chinky187
Cbass
I guess my only route is to get waivers? or do I need to apply to something else?
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
The latter.
chinky187
Cbass
then it isnt worth my time to take the full test, right?
I have seen people on here get waivers? With the help of me being so close to 27, I feel like a waiver should be within my reach?
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
waivers are for prior service
chinky187
Cbass
well...that explains that
browntown
Member
I wouldn't bet on it, but getting an aviation OCS slot through the Marine Corps might be an option if you can put together a package extremely fast and if their board schedule and class dates all lines up right. I believe their age limit is to commission by age 27 + 6 months.
You can also still try for the Air Force/Air National Guard/Air Force Reserve. Their age limit is to enter UPT (pilot training) by your 30th birthday.
chinky187
Cbass
this is the news I wanted to hear
ShadowEagle
Member
Hello everyone, just took the ASTB-E earlier and thought I would share my experience. Feel free to message me if you have any further questions. I received a 56 7/8/8. I would like to thank everyone here for sharing their information and helping myself and others out.
Background Info: I am a current senior pursuing a B.S. in Electrical Engineering with a 3.35 gpa with no prior experience in aviation. I hope to be applying for SNA for the upcoming February board.
Studying and Resources:
I studied for about 3 weeks before the exam anywhere from 2-4 days a week for about 4 hours per session, alternating with my school schedule. I felt fairly confident for the math, reading, and mechanical comprehension so I mainly focused on the ANIT portion of the exam. Whenever I was taking a practice exam or studying, I would write on a notecard every question that I got wrong and would study them on my free time.
Barrons Military Flight Aptitude Tests: Good resource, I knew fairly little about the ANIT portion of the test coming in, and this book did quite a good job of helping me learn and prepare for that section. I skimmed over most of the math, reading, and mechanical explanations as I had a pretty good understanding of them coming in so I can not attest for them. As for the two practice tests, I felt that they were pretty helpful and fairly similar to my exam.
ASTB-E Secrets: I just used this book for the practice test which was helpful for me, however that is all I used it for. If I were to do this again, I am not sure if I would have purchased this book.
Jacob1792's files not too far back were extremely helpful, and I would definitely recommend using his and all other online resources on this forum. The practice exams were really just for timing and simulating the real test but most of my studying was done from these online resources and notecards.
The Exam:
The morning of the exam I left at 0600 to be at the testing facility at 0815. I hit pretty bad traffic and arrived at 0745 but went in feeling confident and ready to tackle the exam, which I believe is one of the most important things to do going in.
MST: Many of the questions here matched both Barron's, ASTB-E Secrets, and the online resources here. I had questions, mainly word problems, about fractions, percentages, DRT, and combined work. I had one radical, one logarithmic, and one matrix multiplication problem. After about 19 questions I was kicked out with around 8 minutes remaining.
RCT: This was probably the section I did worst on, as reading comprehension exams have never been my strong suit. The passages were fairly dry paragraphs about military organizations, procedures, and science. My strategy was to read the answers first and then the passage so I had an idea of what to look for. I answered around 19 questions with 5 minutes left before being kicked out.
MCT: This section had many similar questions from Barrons's, ASTB-E Secrets, and the online resources here as the MST section did. I had questions on pulleys, fulcrums, chemistry, physics, and F=ma. If you study the resources here you should be okay for this section. I probably answered around 20+ questions with a couple minutes remaining.
ANIT: This section was just memorization of the notecards and resources posted here. I must have anwsered 10 questions or so and was kicked out after 5 minutes, which was surprising to me. I was expecting this section to be longer, but I suppose I must have been doing fairly well? I just had questions on what controls yaw, roll, some nautical terms like bulkhead, etc, nothing too out of the ordinary and not too many history questions surprisingly.
NATFI: Just try your best, I answered the questions with being a Naval Officer in mind which I think helped make some of the choices easier to chose from. I tended to chose teamwork based answers as opposed to individual based ones.
PBM: I highly recommend learning the compass trick as this really helped me during this portion. I got 3 wrong during the parking lot problem with an average of around 3 seconds/answer.
As for the dichotic listening, throttle, and joystick parts, just try your best. I found the dichotic listening easier than I expected, probably since I am slightly use to multitasking and calls from video games. As for the throttle and joysticks, especially the combined parts, I was probably on target for about 10% of the time. I would just recommend keep trying your best and don't get discouraged or get frustrated, and try to have fun with it. Definitely write down and try to memorize the emergency procedures, this part was not difficult if you have done this.
Summary: All in all, I would say this exam was what I was expecting, there are no surprises if you read this forum and do a proper amount of studying. Go into the exam confident and ready to do well. Good luck to everyone taking the ASTB-E!
Background Info: I am a current senior pursuing a B.S. in Electrical Engineering with a 3.35 gpa with no prior experience in aviation. I hope to be applying for SNA for the upcoming February board.
Studying and Resources:
I studied for about 3 weeks before the exam anywhere from 2-4 days a week for about 4 hours per session, alternating with my school schedule. I felt fairly confident for the math, reading, and mechanical comprehension so I mainly focused on the ANIT portion of the exam. Whenever I was taking a practice exam or studying, I would write on a notecard every question that I got wrong and would study them on my free time.
Barrons Military Flight Aptitude Tests: Good resource, I knew fairly little about the ANIT portion of the test coming in, and this book did quite a good job of helping me learn and prepare for that section. I skimmed over most of the math, reading, and mechanical explanations as I had a pretty good understanding of them coming in so I can not attest for them. As for the two practice tests, I felt that they were pretty helpful and fairly similar to my exam.
ASTB-E Secrets: I just used this book for the practice test which was helpful for me, however that is all I used it for. If I were to do this again, I am not sure if I would have purchased this book.
Jacob1792's files not too far back were extremely helpful, and I would definitely recommend using his and all other online resources on this forum. The practice exams were really just for timing and simulating the real test but most of my studying was done from these online resources and notecards.
The Exam:
The morning of the exam I left at 0600 to be at the testing facility at 0815. I hit pretty bad traffic and arrived at 0745 but went in feeling confident and ready to tackle the exam, which I believe is one of the most important things to do going in.
MST: Many of the questions here matched both Barron's, ASTB-E Secrets, and the online resources here. I had questions, mainly word problems, about fractions, percentages, DRT, and combined work. I had one radical, one logarithmic, and one matrix multiplication problem. After about 19 questions I was kicked out with around 8 minutes remaining.
RCT: This was probably the section I did worst on, as reading comprehension exams have never been my strong suit. The passages were fairly dry paragraphs about military organizations, procedures, and science. My strategy was to read the answers first and then the passage so I had an idea of what to look for. I answered around 19 questions with 5 minutes left before being kicked out.
MCT: This section had many similar questions from Barrons's, ASTB-E Secrets, and the online resources here as the MST section did. I had questions on pulleys, fulcrums, chemistry, physics, and F=ma. If you study the resources here you should be okay for this section. I probably answered around 20+ questions with a couple minutes remaining.
ANIT: This section was just memorization of the notecards and resources posted here. I must have anwsered 10 questions or so and was kicked out after 5 minutes, which was surprising to me. I was expecting this section to be longer, but I suppose I must have been doing fairly well? I just had questions on what controls yaw, roll, some nautical terms like bulkhead, etc, nothing too out of the ordinary and not too many history questions surprisingly.
NATFI: Just try your best, I answered the questions with being a Naval Officer in mind which I think helped make some of the choices easier to chose from. I tended to chose teamwork based answers as opposed to individual based ones.
PBM: I highly recommend learning the compass trick as this really helped me during this portion. I got 3 wrong during the parking lot problem with an average of around 3 seconds/answer.
As for the dichotic listening, throttle, and joystick parts, just try your best. I found the dichotic listening easier than I expected, probably since I am slightly use to multitasking and calls from video games. As for the throttle and joysticks, especially the combined parts, I was probably on target for about 10% of the time. I would just recommend keep trying your best and don't get discouraged or get frustrated, and try to have fun with it. Definitely write down and try to memorize the emergency procedures, this part was not difficult if you have done this.
Summary: All in all, I would say this exam was what I was expecting, there are no surprises if you read this forum and do a proper amount of studying. Go into the exam confident and ready to do well. Good luck to everyone taking the ASTB-E!
CoDecoy
Active Member
Hey all, took the OAR for the first time yesterday. Felt like it kicked me in the teeth but scored a 54. I wanted to score at least a 53 and my OR said it was decent enough to be competitive. I am applying for SWO board in Feb 2019.
MST felt the hardest. Definitely saw more fractional/simplification problems than D=RT. Finished with 6 minutes left. I thought I was taking too long on my math problems. I didn’t see any log problems, saw a couple successive percentage change questions, nothing. Got a ratio/series problem that I seemed to hit a menta road block on. [Sq. Root of 2]: [2] : [2 sq. Root of 2] find the 10th in the series which now seems so simple...
Reading comprehension was as expected... but I didn’t finish in time. The questions just kept coming. Didn’t feel like I had a problem eliminating the wrong answers. Like it says, although something may be true, it doesn’t mean it is right. It has to be within the paragraph you read for it to be the right answer.
Felt like mechanical was a breeze, types of energy compressed, potential, got a few questions of linear velocity and angular velocity, of course gear ratio and only one pulley problem (fixed pulley, how many ‘N’ does he need to pull to raise at a consistent speed), did not see any electrical questions except “what do ohms measure?” I finished with only a few seconds of extra time.
All together I studied a lot on the threads posted here. I have seen some recent people break it down so I don’t need to do it too. I only studied for two weeks, graduated in 2013 with a psych degree so math was my biggest concern.
Thanks for everyone encouraging those to seek their own knowledge. I only feel I didn’t bomb this because I took ownership and respected the process.
On to MEPs!
Cody
MST felt the hardest. Definitely saw more fractional/simplification problems than D=RT. Finished with 6 minutes left. I thought I was taking too long on my math problems. I didn’t see any log problems, saw a couple successive percentage change questions, nothing. Got a ratio/series problem that I seemed to hit a menta road block on. [Sq. Root of 2]: [2] : [2 sq. Root of 2] find the 10th in the series which now seems so simple...
Reading comprehension was as expected... but I didn’t finish in time. The questions just kept coming. Didn’t feel like I had a problem eliminating the wrong answers. Like it says, although something may be true, it doesn’t mean it is right. It has to be within the paragraph you read for it to be the right answer.
Felt like mechanical was a breeze, types of energy compressed, potential, got a few questions of linear velocity and angular velocity, of course gear ratio and only one pulley problem (fixed pulley, how many ‘N’ does he need to pull to raise at a consistent speed), did not see any electrical questions except “what do ohms measure?” I finished with only a few seconds of extra time.
All together I studied a lot on the threads posted here. I have seen some recent people break it down so I don’t need to do it too. I only studied for two weeks, graduated in 2013 with a psych degree so math was my biggest concern.
Thanks for everyone encouraging those to seek their own knowledge. I only feel I didn’t bomb this because I took ownership and respected the process.
On to MEPs!
Cody
chinky187
Cbass
" [Sq. Root of 2]: [2] : [2 sq. Root of 2] find the 10th in the series which now seems so simple... "
would the answer be 2?
thank you for the review!
ShadowEagle
Member
I had this same problem on my test, and I believe I answered 32. I viewed this as 2^(1/2), 2^(2/2), 2^(3/2) ... 2^(10/2). Since the tenth element is 2^(10/2) which is 2^5 I believe the answer is 32.
chinky187
Cbass
thank you!
CoDecoy
Active Member
Well done!
Not sure. I believe the options were 36, 19, 7, and one other. Definitely a guess when I did it.
Dan2321
Member
Attn Aviation applicants: the simulator portion of the ASTB was one of the hardest tests I’ve ever taken. Granted, I had no flying/flight simulator experience. I’m sure some of you found it easier, and others found it just as difficult as I did if not worse. Somehow I passed and was accepted to OCS, even though I thought I didn’t have a shot.
My best advice for that would be stay calm. During that portion, there will be A LOT thrown at you at once. If you freak out and get stressed it’ll make it that much more difficult. I’m sure it’s designed for that purpose; to test your ability to stay calm in a high-stress, unpredictable environment. Stay calm, don’t panic, and focus on doing your best. Best of luck to all taking the test!
My best advice for that would be stay calm. During that portion, there will be A LOT thrown at you at once. If you freak out and get stressed it’ll make it that much more difficult. I’m sure it’s designed for that purpose; to test your ability to stay calm in a high-stress, unpredictable environment. Stay calm, don’t panic, and focus on doing your best. Best of luck to all taking the test!