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M_TOMICH

New Member
I just finished my first attempt at the ASTB for Naval Aviation in Kansas City, and I'll go to MEPS tomorrow morning. I scored a 57 7/5/8 on my ASTB. I'm worried that 5 on the PFAR is not competitive enough for Aviator. I'll need to speak with my recruiter and I'll probably want to retake this exam in 30 days. I need to figure out a solid game plan for raising that PFAR score. I'm not sure if I just bombed the joystick and throttle portion or what. I felt I did great on the L/R even/odd audio commands, but I didn't feel confident about the dual throttle and stick simultaneous target tracking.

Which segments of the exam factor into the PFAR score? I'd like to get an idea of how I can improve, if possible. Thank you in advance for any input/advice.
 
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FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
I just finished my first attempt at the ASTB for Naval Aviation in Kansas City, and I'll go to MEPS tomorrow morning. I scored a 57 7/5/8 on my ASTB. I'm worried that 5 on the PFAR is not competitive enough for Aviator. I'll need to speak with my recruiter and I'll probably want to retake this exam in 30 days. I need to figure out a solid game plan for raising that PFAR score. I'm not sure if I just bombed the joystick and throttle portion or what. I felt I did great on the L/R even/odd audio commands, but I didn't feel confident about the dual throttle and stick simultaneous target tracking.

Which segments of the exam factor into the PFAR score? I'd like to get an idea of how I can improve, if possible. Thank you in advance for any input/advice.

You should probably double check the requirements for Aviation...
 

E6BFlightComp

Active Member
I just finished my first attempt at the ASTB for Naval Aviation in Kansas City, and I'll go to MEPS tomorrow morning. I scored a 57 7/5/8 on my ASTB. I'm worried that 5 on the PFAR is not competitive enough for Aviator. I'll need to speak with my recruiter and I'll probably want to retake this exam in 30 days. I need to figure out a solid game plan for raising that PFAR score. I'm not sure if I just bombed the joystick and throttle portion or what. I felt I did great on the L/R even/odd audio commands, but I didn't feel confident about the dual throttle and stick simultaneous target tracking.

Which segments of the exam factor into the PFAR score? I'd like to get an idea of how I can improve, if possible. Thank you in advance for any input/advice.

The minimum score for a Student Naval Aviator (SNA) is a 4 on the AQR and a 5 on the PFAR. You met minimums and have a whats considered to be a competitive AQR score. As well as whats considered competitive scores to apply for an SFO.

The PFAR score which is mainly used in selection for a SNA slot :

Pilot Flight Aptitude Rating (PFAR): This score is affected by performance on all subtests, but the greatest contribution is made by the Aviation & Nautical Info and Spatial Apperception Tests.

- from https://www.usnavy.vt.edu/documents/astboverview.pdf

In order to increase this score, I focused mainly on the ANIT section and the PBM section. But from reading this, the Spacial Apperception Test is considered from the UAV section. Did you happen to use the compass trick from
?
 

Brand0034

Well-Known Member
I have a question about the UAV portion. I understand all of the first half of the questions in this study set but when it switches to satellite image questions it seems reversed. I thought your heading would be from the red dot pointing out towards yellow, but it seems to be from the yellow pointing towards the red dot. Can someone verify this?
For instance, the first satellite question on the set has a red dot with the yellow pointing up. I would view that as a north heading.
The answer views the heading as south.
 

OperationChungus

Well-Known Member
pilot
I have a question about the UAV portion. I understand all of the first half of the questions in this study set but when it switches to satellite image questions it seems reversed. I thought your heading would be from the red dot pointing out towards yellow, but it seems to be from the yellow pointing towards the red dot. Can someone verify this?
For instance, the first satellite question on the set has a red dot with the yellow pointing up. I would view that as a north heading.
The answer views the heading as south.


The direction of travel for the satellite map questions is indicated by the yellow arrow pointing AT the red circle
 

Ed014

Well-Known Member
Hey I guys I just took the ASTB this morning and got these scores: 57, 7/6/7

MATH:
I felt prepared going into the exam for the math portion, but I underestimated how difficult it would actually be. I had a couple log problems, a few ratio problems, and some factoring of exponents. I should have spent more time studying on this section then I had.

READING:
Going into the exam I felt this would be my strongest portion due to how I scored on my ACT and SAT. While it was the easiest section for me, I was surprised at how dry the passages really were. I believe the key of these questions is to find the answer that comes directly from the passage, not inferring what the correct answer could be based on the passage.

MECHANICAL COMPREHENSION:
I have never taken a physics class before (I am a Business Major), not even in high school. I split most of my studying time on this section and the Aviation and Nautical Information test. To be honest I don't remember much of what was in the actual test and I am sorry for that. What I do know is that the Barron's book covered most if not all of what I encountered. If I came across a problem that I had no idea how to solve I wouldn't spend much time trying to figure out an answer. I just picked whatever made logical sense to me and moved on to the next question. I used this technique for the rest of the exam as well.

NATFI:
Boring, don't have to study for it so it wasn't too bad. Just lots of questions.

AVIATION AND NAUTICAL INFORMATION:
I felt the Barron's book gave me all the information I needed to pass this section of the exam. The questions were mainly about different parts of the plane and their functions. I felt like I had more Aviation questions rather than Nautical, and had little to no historical questions that had to do with names or dates. This surprised me as the practice tests in the Barron's book had quite a few.

PBM:
Sucked, used the compass trick for the UAV portion of the test. I probably missed like 5 due to not holding the paper correctly on some of the NE and SW type bearing questions. Joystick and throttle portion was intimidating to begin with but I started to feel more comfortable as the test progressed.
mattdavid1234 sums it up really well. Go read his as it is much better than what I could explain. Its on this same page (343).

Overall I'm pleased. My OSO was happy with how I scored and does not want me to retest so I'm going to stay where I am at.



https://www.amazon.com/Barrons-Military-Flight-Aptitude-Tests/dp/1438011040

Is this the Barron's book you used?
 

Codeman98

New Member
Hello everybody, I’m new to AW and have a couple questions for the ASTB. I’m using barrons study book and the math questions seem very easy. Is what’s on barrons study guide math section closely related to what’s on the test? Or would y’all say the math study guide on here created by Carlos Miro is more similar? I know the test is adaptive, but just trying to get a feel for what I’m going up against. TIA
 

OperationChungus

Well-Known Member
pilot
Hello everybody, I’m new to AW and have a couple questions for the ASTB. I’m using barrons study book and the math questions seem very easy. Is what’s on barrons study guide math section closely related to what’s on the test? Or would y’all say the math study guide on here created by Carlos Miro is more similar? I know the test is adaptive, but just trying to get a feel for what I’m going up against. TIA

Barron’s and the other books are great starters, but they’re starters. They’ll point you in the general direction of what the ATSB entails but in order to do well, you’ll need to do the majority of your studying/learning from the Gouge files posted all throughout this thread. Just go back about 150 pages and read forward from there. Questions and answers posted will help out a bunch. Good luck.
 

pleahy15

Well-Known Member
Hello everybody, I’m new to AW and have a couple questions for the ASTB. I’m using barrons study book and the math questions seem very easy. Is what’s on barrons study guide math section closely related to what’s on the test? Or would y’all say the math study guide on here created by Carlos Miro is more similar? I know the test is adaptive, but just trying to get a feel for what I’m going up against.
There’s a post my Aptrickpay somewhere that has a lot of good material. But @OperationChungus is right, Barron will get you on the right path, but searching through this thread will be the best way to study.
 

jlee199

Well-Known Member
Just took the ASTB 20 minutes ago

53 5/5/6

GPA 3.42
Major: Criminology

Letter of recommendation from two professors and governor of Maryland.

What’re my chances looking like for SNA?
 

pleahy15

Well-Known Member
Just took the ASTB 20 minutes ago

53 5/5/6

GPA 3.42
Major: Criminology

Letter of recommendation from two professors and governor of Maryland.

What’re my chances looking like for SNA?
There’s a thread somewhere that has competitive scores to compare to. But also @OperationChungus is right, you’ll need to get your PFAR up to be eligible for SNA.
 

Brand0034

Well-Known Member
Is there an actual guideline for the minimum scores required? I see 5/6/6 posted, but have also seen others get in with lower. Also I talked to a recruiter and he told me 6/7/6 but this office seemed different. Everything was secretive and I had to pry answers from them which should've been easy info.
 
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