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Thanks! Just one last question, what was the adjustment for Fuel for the "Prop. Failure" emergency?
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JSaint23
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Yes, they provide a list of formulas in the upper left hand corner of the test I believe but they explain where to find them before your time officially begins on the test so don‘t waist any brain power trying to remember the formulas. My advice is have the Area formula’s memorized, especially the circle Area formula and the formula for the circumference of a circle.
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jlebsock
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Took the ASTB. OAR: 51 7/8/7. GPA is 3.6 for a Business Admin degree. I studied off and on during my last semester of college. I didn't even really study the the week leading up to the exam and that probably hurt my OAR score. My advice is just the same as the others before me. As a side note, I seriously think I'm mentally handicap when it comes to math and it wasn't that bad for me. Just don't underestimate it.
Also, for people who are pilots, I would suggest getting some time in a cub or something that is stick and rudder flying. I put 17 hours in an Aeronca Champ ( mostly just for the fun of it) and I think it helped with the PBM. Just some food for thought for those who do have access to that kind of resource.
-Cheers.
Also, for people who are pilots, I would suggest getting some time in a cub or something that is stick and rudder flying. I put 17 hours in an Aeronca Champ ( mostly just for the fun of it) and I think it helped with the PBM. Just some food for thought for those who do have access to that kind of resource.
-Cheers.
tkizzle96
New Member
Just took the ASTB for the 2nd time on Monday, Jan. 6th.. I took the exam for the first time near the end of November and got a 39 - OAR, 4 - AQR, 6 PFAR, and 5 - FOFAR. I was disappointed but I thought, hey it’s the first time (no previous flight experience and wasn’t sure what to expect in terms of difficulty on the adaptive questions and PBM). I went in the 2nd time with a good understanding of those questions and on the 2nd attempt I received a 49 - OAR, a 6 - AQR, a 9 - PFAR, and an 8 - FOFAR.
Math - I knew almost immediately that I was doing better than the first time because I was getting a lot harder questions, but I was prepared for those because I spent a lot of time studying D=rt problems, log problems, and exponents with fractions, etc. I don’t have the link but I know it’s all over this sub, I studied Kyle’s study guide and helped out immensely (can’t state that enough) on the second go round.
Reading - I felt that I took this for granted. I spent majority of my time after the 1st attempt focusing on Math and Mechanical comprehension and looked over the Reading but I felt I did ok, not great, but ok on this section.
Mechanical Comprehension - this was fairly easy because like I said I was focusing on this more the second time around. I had a lot of angles and tension and different theory questions.
ANIT - this was a breeze for me. I studied Barron’s Flight aptitude material and it really helped out a lot. I had a couple of questions that referenced the S-3 Viking and a few history of aircraft questions.
NAFTI - Can’t really study for this section, just try and pick the lesser of two evils, I think they add this just as a buffer between test material and the PBM. Just try and be truthful and not what you think they want to hear.
PBM - It’s just as everyone on this forum has stated. Just breathe and relax, make sure to take your time reading the instructions and try to make the most of the practices. For the UAV section use the video on YouTube and I know that it’s posted somewhere on this forum, practice it before heading in and you’ll be fine. Accuracy seemed to be better than quickness. I only missed one on this section luckily but kept most of the right answers around 2 - 3.5 and 4 seconds. Use that scrap paper!! The tracking, use that practice to learn the dead zones of the throttle and joystick. After practice I just took a breath and tried to relax, focus on the right side where you’re operating the joystick and use peripheral vision for the vertical tracking, I found that the easiest way to attack this section.
Only thing I’m worried about is my OAR score being that it’s around average and a 6 on AQR, but I have a friend in Primary saying that it should be ok when applying for OCS for SNA and since I received a 9 of the PFAR and an 8 on FOFAR, which averages to a 7.6 and I had 3.4 GPA in college.. So if anyone can sort of confirm that, I’d feel fairly good about my chances. Thanks to everyone on this forum with tips and where to look when I gouged before the test!
Math - I knew almost immediately that I was doing better than the first time because I was getting a lot harder questions, but I was prepared for those because I spent a lot of time studying D=rt problems, log problems, and exponents with fractions, etc. I don’t have the link but I know it’s all over this sub, I studied Kyle’s study guide and helped out immensely (can’t state that enough) on the second go round.
Reading - I felt that I took this for granted. I spent majority of my time after the 1st attempt focusing on Math and Mechanical comprehension and looked over the Reading but I felt I did ok, not great, but ok on this section.
Mechanical Comprehension - this was fairly easy because like I said I was focusing on this more the second time around. I had a lot of angles and tension and different theory questions.
ANIT - this was a breeze for me. I studied Barron’s Flight aptitude material and it really helped out a lot. I had a couple of questions that referenced the S-3 Viking and a few history of aircraft questions.
NAFTI - Can’t really study for this section, just try and pick the lesser of two evils, I think they add this just as a buffer between test material and the PBM. Just try and be truthful and not what you think they want to hear.
PBM - It’s just as everyone on this forum has stated. Just breathe and relax, make sure to take your time reading the instructions and try to make the most of the practices. For the UAV section use the video on YouTube and I know that it’s posted somewhere on this forum, practice it before heading in and you’ll be fine. Accuracy seemed to be better than quickness. I only missed one on this section luckily but kept most of the right answers around 2 - 3.5 and 4 seconds. Use that scrap paper!! The tracking, use that practice to learn the dead zones of the throttle and joystick. After practice I just took a breath and tried to relax, focus on the right side where you’re operating the joystick and use peripheral vision for the vertical tracking, I found that the easiest way to attack this section.
Only thing I’m worried about is my OAR score being that it’s around average and a 6 on AQR, but I have a friend in Primary saying that it should be ok when applying for OCS for SNA and since I received a 9 of the PFAR and an 8 on FOFAR, which averages to a 7.6 and I had 3.4 GPA in college.. So if anyone can sort of confirm that, I’d feel fairly good about my chances. Thanks to everyone on this forum with tips and where to look when I gouged before the test!
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Winslow Blow
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Should be “C”. Log has a natural base of 10 so 10^2=100 and with log rules, adding us multiply/subtracting is divided. So next is 2logx which is x^2 and subtract(divide) 3/2logy which is y/(3/2).
Look up log rules. log rules that apply to this:
log a - log b = log (a/b)
x log b = log b^x <-- log b raise to x
log a + log b = log ab
then you have the above explanation about the 100
combine all of it
aspiringSwo
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3.6 Computer Science graduate. I took the OAR for the first time 1/8/20. 69 OAR. Digital version.
Studied the guides on the forum for mechanical comprehension for about a week. I studied simple machines and some electricity and circuits. I took the practice test materials from the guides here and just learned the correct way to solve the problem every time I got something wrong. Also bought Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test for the 2 practice ASTB-E tests at the end of the book.
Math - They got me with some difficult exponents and logarithms about 5 questions total for these. Rest are the simple kinds of questions with a lot of arithmetic.
Reading - All questions reading comprehension based, infer the choice from the passage. Do not study any vocabulary, waste of time.
Mechanical Comprehension - Fairly straight forward. Mostly simple machines, mechanical advantage calculations, and acceleration. There was a question for airplane speed and holes in the wings that I didn't understand.
Pro-tip: Actual testing software didn't tell me the number of questions for each section or the time I had left for the test. I rushed through the test because of this reason.
Bring your own analogue watch, they took my digital watch.
Studied the guides on the forum for mechanical comprehension for about a week. I studied simple machines and some electricity and circuits. I took the practice test materials from the guides here and just learned the correct way to solve the problem every time I got something wrong. Also bought Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test for the 2 practice ASTB-E tests at the end of the book.
Math - They got me with some difficult exponents and logarithms about 5 questions total for these. Rest are the simple kinds of questions with a lot of arithmetic.
Reading - All questions reading comprehension based, infer the choice from the passage. Do not study any vocabulary, waste of time.
Mechanical Comprehension - Fairly straight forward. Mostly simple machines, mechanical advantage calculations, and acceleration. There was a question for airplane speed and holes in the wings that I didn't understand.
Pro-tip: Actual testing software didn't tell me the number of questions for each section or the time I had left for the test. I rushed through the test because of this reason.
Bring your own analogue watch, they took my digital watch.
JSaint23
Well-Known Member
Undergrad in Finance & Economics, 2.87 GPA. Graduated in June of 2018. (Prior Service, 5 Years Enlisted Navy, AO BABY!!!!)
Scores:
OAR: 52
6/6/6
Ok,
I'd first like to thank everyone on this forum. It's only through our collective efforts that we're actually able help people succeed and I definitely met my goal. I'll go ahead and give a brief explanation to save you time but also try to jam pack as much detail about the test as I can so here goes this spark noted version of what to expect on the ASTB-E....you ready???
FIRST OF ALL! Nobody's experience is the same!!!
I prioritized mentioning the prior statement because the test is adaptive and depending on how many questions you get right will determine the difficulty level of the questions that the test generates. However, with that being said I will give you my experience but please take it with a grain of salt. What's important are the studying habits and determination to get the scores you'll need to actually qualify to submit a package and get picked up.
Math: I studied my ass off for this as this WILL BE the section of the test that carries the most weight for your OAR score, BELIEVE IT! I encountered multiple exponential problems just like most people have. I also encountered the typical D= R X T problems, word of advice for those problems in particular, when you're at the end of the problem and you think you've answered it correctly but it still isn't making sense, it's because you've yet to convert the answer into the final form i.e. minutes, miles etc etc...had a real challenge on that one. Overall I feel I did ok and judging by my score I wasn't that far off.
Reading: #1 WORD OF ADVICE. If the answer isn't literally mentioned in the passage, 80-90% of the time it ins't correct. All of the questions are "Inference" questions meaning you have to understand what the passage is saying, so in other words studying vocabulary is more than likely a waste of your time. Once again I would say that I did ok in this area. What I took away from this section was the Navy wants officers who can understand what people are "Saying" not what they "Mean to Say". People who read this and truly understand "People" will understand what that actually means.
Mechanical Comprehension: Man! This ironically is probably one of the easiest sections to study for, though the one section I was worried most about forgetting the formulas for physics, science, and electricity. With that being said, just study the mechanical comprehension section in Barron's ASTB study Guide booklet...and then study them again, and then literally try to apply the principals you learn in the book to a couple scenario's in real life and you'll retain the information 10X as fast.....believe me! I spent forever trying to understand how to calculate the Mechanical Advantage of a pulley System, when all you have to do is count how many ropes there are minus the rope with no tension...ridiculously simple.
ANIT: Ok, these are the easiest sections to study for, my advice and please follow verbatim, study the Barron's Aviation Technical Knowledge section, and I mean study until you've memorized most of the information and then study the ANIT gouge/study guide, you can find it on page 353 of this forum, just scroll down and you'll find a link that'll contain the study guide to ANIT and the rest of the sections of the test as well. I murdered this section because I'm applying for a pilot position and I knew that I had to focus my energy and concentration for studying this section coupled with the PBM section to get a decent enough score to be eligible. Know all Aircraft parts and what they do as well as Naval War history along with the flight principal and VFR (Visual Flight Rules) and IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) and you'll do fine.
UAV: This section is incredibly easy to study...one trick that will land you a perfect score no matter who you are and no matter whether or not you have flight experience or you work at Walmart full time, here's the video
. If the link doesn't end up working just go to Youtube and type in "UAV ASTB". I swear that guy should literally teach how to pass the test because he's brilliant. Also study these flash cards, they are EXACTLY like the test. The link for the flash cards are https://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-uav-portion. Try to do the quiz and time yourself then divide total time by how many questions you're presented with, convert to seconds and you'll have your average reaction time just like during the real exam. They score you on accuracy and timing but believe me ACCURACY IS MORE IMPORTANT!!!
PBM: Here we go...the fun section LOL This section I studied my tail off for!!! I mean I did everything short of calling the person up who created the test to ask how to pass it lol...no seriously. I was most worried about this section due to the fact I hadn't spent any time in any flight simulators or anything but honestly as long as you pre-orient yourself with the inverted joystick you'll do fine. When they combine the plane up and down tracking and the 2D plane tracking please please please FOCUS ON THE 2D and keep the up and down cross hair in your peripheral, it works!
P.S. Pay very close attention to the dichotic listening test instructions!!!
The test will give you instructions that basically say ONLY press the button that corresponds to the "Target Ear" This DOES NOT mean that if an even number is mentioned hit the right trigger and if an odd number is mentioned hit the left trigger. The test will mention the ear and ONLY that specific ear you need to be paying attention to and if the correct type of number is mentioned in that ear THEN you press the trigger or clutch button depending on which ear it is. For example, if the test says "Right" and then starts saying numbers and letters, your job is to listen for an EVEN number that comes into you're RIGHT ear and Vise Vera for your Left ear the test will say "Left" and then say numbers and letters and you're now listening for an ODD number that you hear in your LEFT ear. Sounds confusing I know and a lot of people including myself completely effed up this section because we didn't pay attention to the instructions!
STUDY EMERGENCY PROCEDURES BEFORE GETTING TO THE TEST!!!
FIRE LIGHT: FUEL LOW, POWER LOW, PRESS CLUTCH BUTTON
ENGINE LIGHT: FUEL MAX, POWER MAX, PRESS CLUTCH BUTTON
PROPELLER LIGHT: FUEL 50%, POWER MAX, PRESS CLUTCH BUTTON.
The quicker you get rid of the emergency procedures the better, when the light's come on you stop what you're doing and fix the emergency.
I know this was long but I felt as though I owed this to anybody looking to take this test and become the best officer they can be, especially for prospecting Pilots....IYOYAS!!!!!! and GOD BLESS!!!
Jairmiya
Scores:
OAR: 52
6/6/6
Ok,
I'd first like to thank everyone on this forum. It's only through our collective efforts that we're actually able help people succeed and I definitely met my goal. I'll go ahead and give a brief explanation to save you time but also try to jam pack as much detail about the test as I can so here goes this spark noted version of what to expect on the ASTB-E....you ready???
FIRST OF ALL! Nobody's experience is the same!!!
I prioritized mentioning the prior statement because the test is adaptive and depending on how many questions you get right will determine the difficulty level of the questions that the test generates. However, with that being said I will give you my experience but please take it with a grain of salt. What's important are the studying habits and determination to get the scores you'll need to actually qualify to submit a package and get picked up.
Math: I studied my ass off for this as this WILL BE the section of the test that carries the most weight for your OAR score, BELIEVE IT! I encountered multiple exponential problems just like most people have. I also encountered the typical D= R X T problems, word of advice for those problems in particular, when you're at the end of the problem and you think you've answered it correctly but it still isn't making sense, it's because you've yet to convert the answer into the final form i.e. minutes, miles etc etc...had a real challenge on that one. Overall I feel I did ok and judging by my score I wasn't that far off.
Reading: #1 WORD OF ADVICE. If the answer isn't literally mentioned in the passage, 80-90% of the time it ins't correct. All of the questions are "Inference" questions meaning you have to understand what the passage is saying, so in other words studying vocabulary is more than likely a waste of your time. Once again I would say that I did ok in this area. What I took away from this section was the Navy wants officers who can understand what people are "Saying" not what they "Mean to Say". People who read this and truly understand "People" will understand what that actually means.
Mechanical Comprehension: Man! This ironically is probably one of the easiest sections to study for, though the one section I was worried most about forgetting the formulas for physics, science, and electricity. With that being said, just study the mechanical comprehension section in Barron's ASTB study Guide booklet...and then study them again, and then literally try to apply the principals you learn in the book to a couple scenario's in real life and you'll retain the information 10X as fast.....believe me! I spent forever trying to understand how to calculate the Mechanical Advantage of a pulley System, when all you have to do is count how many ropes there are minus the rope with no tension...ridiculously simple.
ANIT: Ok, these are the easiest sections to study for, my advice and please follow verbatim, study the Barron's Aviation Technical Knowledge section, and I mean study until you've memorized most of the information and then study the ANIT gouge/study guide, you can find it on page 353 of this forum, just scroll down and you'll find a link that'll contain the study guide to ANIT and the rest of the sections of the test as well. I murdered this section because I'm applying for a pilot position and I knew that I had to focus my energy and concentration for studying this section coupled with the PBM section to get a decent enough score to be eligible. Know all Aircraft parts and what they do as well as Naval War history along with the flight principal and VFR (Visual Flight Rules) and IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) and you'll do fine.
UAV: This section is incredibly easy to study...one trick that will land you a perfect score no matter who you are and no matter whether or not you have flight experience or you work at Walmart full time, here's the video
PBM: Here we go...the fun section LOL This section I studied my tail off for!!! I mean I did everything short of calling the person up who created the test to ask how to pass it lol...no seriously. I was most worried about this section due to the fact I hadn't spent any time in any flight simulators or anything but honestly as long as you pre-orient yourself with the inverted joystick you'll do fine. When they combine the plane up and down tracking and the 2D plane tracking please please please FOCUS ON THE 2D and keep the up and down cross hair in your peripheral, it works!
P.S. Pay very close attention to the dichotic listening test instructions!!!
The test will give you instructions that basically say ONLY press the button that corresponds to the "Target Ear" This DOES NOT mean that if an even number is mentioned hit the right trigger and if an odd number is mentioned hit the left trigger. The test will mention the ear and ONLY that specific ear you need to be paying attention to and if the correct type of number is mentioned in that ear THEN you press the trigger or clutch button depending on which ear it is. For example, if the test says "Right" and then starts saying numbers and letters, your job is to listen for an EVEN number that comes into you're RIGHT ear and Vise Vera for your Left ear the test will say "Left" and then say numbers and letters and you're now listening for an ODD number that you hear in your LEFT ear. Sounds confusing I know and a lot of people including myself completely effed up this section because we didn't pay attention to the instructions!
STUDY EMERGENCY PROCEDURES BEFORE GETTING TO THE TEST!!!
FIRE LIGHT: FUEL LOW, POWER LOW, PRESS CLUTCH BUTTON
ENGINE LIGHT: FUEL MAX, POWER MAX, PRESS CLUTCH BUTTON
PROPELLER LIGHT: FUEL 50%, POWER MAX, PRESS CLUTCH BUTTON.
The quicker you get rid of the emergency procedures the better, when the light's come on you stop what you're doing and fix the emergency.
I know this was long but I felt as though I owed this to anybody looking to take this test and become the best officer they can be, especially for prospecting Pilots....IYOYAS!!!!!! and GOD BLESS!!!
Jairmiya
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